Mega Ultra Cold Engine Stuff Questions

[TorontoNat]

In extra, extra cold weather, SHould your engine oil start to cool down while still on and hot at idle?

Scenario: I drive to work in the morning... Engine gets to about 80% OP-TEMP, I park, have a smoke and leave the car on cuz... it's cold af. Should my Oil temp stay, keep climbing to perfect operating temp or start to dip slowly which is what mine does.

Hope my thermostat is not broken but that's the first thing that comes to mind unless it's normal in extra cold weather.

Thanks,

[Sideways]

With the weather that we have been getting up here recently, I won't be surprised if the oil temps doesn't keep climbing to optimum temps during idling.

I have noticed that once I start the car in the morning these days, no matter how long I wait, the oil temp won't get the perfect temp until I start driving it. Same goes for the coolant temps.

[TorontoNat]

Originally Posted by Sideways

With the weather that we have been getting up here recently, I won't be surprised if the oil temps doesn't keep climbing to optimum temps during idling.

I have noticed that once I start the car in the morning these days, no matter how long I wait, the oil temp won't get the perfect temp until I start driving it. Same goes for the coolant temps.

OK cool that's what I thought. Yeah the morning startups are pretty rough these days. Always works but she struggles a little bit at first. Thanks!

[Frost]

Idling means no load. No load means, engine doesn't churn out much horsepower which means not as much heat generated.

With the extreme temps we are getting, that could very well mean no load situations might not replenish the heat that's being dissipated to atmosphere which could mean temp could actually never hit optimum in an idle situation.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Frost

Idling means no load. No load means, engine doesn't churn out much horsepower which means not as much heat generated.

With the extreme temps we are getting, that could very well mean no load situations might not replenish the heat that's being dissipated to atmosphere which could mean temp could actually never hit optimum in an idle situation.

This.

The best way to warm up the car is to drive it. Idling I find is next to useless beyond just getting the fluids running in the car for correct and smooth operation.

These aren't considered extreme temps though unfortunately, well, if you are close to the large cities, toronto, markham, scarborough, pickering, etc. Up north in muskoka, the temp dropped to -37. The toilet bowl was ice cold and the water inside it was literally frozen, inside a heated/insulated cottage.... -20 is weak compared to that shit up north lol.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

This.

The best way to warm up the car is to drive it. Idling I find is next to useless beyond just getting the fluids running in the car for correct and smooth operation.

These aren't considered extreme temps though unfortunately, well, if you are close to the large cities, toronto, markham, scarborough, pickering, etc. Up north in muskoka, the temp dropped to -37. The toilet bowl was ice cold and the water inside it was literally frozen, inside a heated/insulated cottage.... -20 is weak compared to that shit up north lol.

It actually dropped to -35 in Scarborough. Or at least my intake sensor read that.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Frost

It actually dropped to -35 in Scarborough. Or at least my intake sensor read that.

Really? I can't imagine the difference in temp being that great from scarborough to pickering? Do you know what day this was, I'm interested to see if it was actually that low

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Really? I can't imagine the difference in temp being that great from scarborough to pickering? Do you know what day this was, I'm interested to see if it was actually that low

Coldest it's been in Scarborough in the past month is -24 according to The Weather Network. Though, measured at Buttonville, so not exactly super accurate.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Cole

Coldest it's been in Scarborough in the past month is -24 according to The Weather Network. Though, measured at Buttonville, so not exactly super accurate.

Found similar results on another website. "timeanddate.com"

Lowest temp was -22 in Toronto area, couldn't search Scarborough precisely.

Lowest temp in muskoka lol, -36. Never again do I want to be out in that crap, snow squalls were horrific driving conditions if you got stuck in it.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...h=12&year=2017

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...h=12&year=2017

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

This.

The best way to warm up the car is to drive it. Idling I find is next to useless beyond just getting the fluids running in the car for correct and smooth operation.

These aren't considered extreme temps though unfortunately, well, if you are close to the large cities, toronto, markham, scarborough, pickering, etc. Up north in muskoka, the temp dropped to -37. The toilet bowl was ice cold and the water inside it was literally frozen, inside a heated/insulated cottage.... -20 is weak compared to that shit up north lol.

Yep, the lowest recorded temp for Muskoka so far this winter is -36.4 so I presume you rounded down.

Originally Posted by Frost

It actually dropped to -35 in Scarborough. Or at least my intake sensor read that.

The lowest recorded temp for Scarborough this winter is -22 so your intake sensor must have been adding windchill somehow.


Although windchill does not impact inanimate objects (it is the temperature that the human body feels as to what it actually is) it would indeed remove the heat from a car block while you are moving marginally faster than if sitting still.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep, the lowest recorded temp for Muskoka so far this winter is -36.4 so I presume you rounded down.


The lowest recorded temp for Scarborough this winter is -22 so your intake sensor must have been adding windchill somehow.


Although windchill does not impact inanimate objects (it is the temperature that the human body feels as to what it actually is) it would indeed remove the heat from a car block while you are moving marginally faster than if sitting still.

A semi-guesstimate of actual temps, I just went off what I kept seeing in my car and not holding it to 100% accuracy, thus spawning -37, Mr. Tcoat. -,..,-

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Found similar results on another website. "timeanddate.com"

Lowest temp was -22 in Toronto area, couldn't search Scarborough precisely.

Lowest temp in muskoka lol, -36. Never again do I want to be out in that crap, snow squalls were horrific driving conditions if you got stuck in it.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...h=12&year=2017

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...h=12&year=2017

The coldest I ever experienced was doing a two week leave coverage for a guy at the Canadian base in Alert. Went down to -55 (-70 with windchill) a couple of days. At that point vehicles just barely operate. I don't know how some of them stayed there for months at a time.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

A semi-guesstimate of actual temps, I just went off what I kept seeing in my car and not holding it to 100% accuracy, thus spawning -37, Mr. Tcoat. -,..,-

Well you did well since you were damned close.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Really? I can't imagine the difference in temp being that great from scarborough to pickering? Do you know what day this was, I'm interested to see if it was actually that low

I believe this was on the Dec 31st night. My car was outdoors for pretty much half a day before I cranked her up to drive home after midnight. I also realized this was NOT Scarborough but rather Stoney Creek. I drove BACK to Scarborough that night.

Keep in mind this was an old Lexus LS and not the BRZ. Maybe sensor is off.

Edit: Using the same website you used, it shows -21 C. Bad readout I guess? Not sure how the 2nd gen LS picked up outdoor air temps.