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Old 09-07-2013, 07:55 PM   #1
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Which is the most comfortable coilover on brz/frs??

I am looking for coil overs which are more comfortable than stock on street but holds better than stock at corners and once or twice on tract every year. Wife hate the ride saying is too bumpy on the road!! My tuning shop guy told me if I go for kw v3 it might be a little bit more comfortable on street for daily drive.

I searched over the forum, but doesn't look like any coilover will be more comfortable but holds better at corner than the stock.

Anybody can help me??

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kw v3, tarmac 0s or 2s, ST, or RS*R. just my .02 from reading and searching on these forums.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:54 PM   #3
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I'd agree w/ KW based on reviews. ST might be close, I don't think RSR will be a good choice though.
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I'd agree w/ KW based on reviews. ST might be close, I don't think RSR will be a good choice though.
Why you say that? Reading their posts, they boast the Sport-i coilovers can handle the track and Black-i coilovers can be slammed all while retaining some of the ride quality of the stock suspension.
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Why you say that? Reading their posts, they boast the Sport-i coilovers can handle the track and Black-i coilovers can be slammed all while retaining some of the ride quality of the stock suspension.
Ive never heard anything focusing on comfort from rsr. Ive never used them. just speculation.
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Ive never heard anything focusing on comfort from rsr. Ive never used them. just speculation.
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Any one knows about bilstein b14 euro spec, was reading their Japanese site and thet have a diagram shows its more comfy on street and little bit more sporty than the stock, but it looks the rear doesn't come with the springs. Wonder why?? Also I think the price will be high compare with the kw v3.
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From the thread with the Ohlins on, doesn't sound like it is comfy on the daily drive!!

Any reasons why Ohlins!! I've never had Ohlins before.
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I had the Ohlins R&T on my BMW 135i. They are super nice. They have a special DFV (dual flow valve) that makes them not so harsh over bumps and potholes, but I ran with spring rates that were so high that the ride was still too rough for me.
I also never utilized the adjustments or tracked that car like i had intended.

With my BRZ I decided this time around that I'd not make the same mistake and researched and found the ST coilovers had basically the softest spring rates, AND they were just about the best priced at $850.
ST coilovers are supposed to be the same as the KW V1 coilovers, made by KW, so I knew they were at least quality, and I couldn't be happier.

Ride is great, not too stiff, lowered my car 1.5" and can go lower if I want, handling is much improved.
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also important to consider which coilovers use the factory rubber top mounts, they make a substantial difference to NVH
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Any one knows about bilstein b14 euro spec, was reading their Japanese site and thet have a diagram shows its more comfy on street and little bit more sporty than the stock, but it looks the rear doesn't come with the springs. Wonder why?? Also I think the price will be high compare with the kw v3.
I've got the bilstein euro spec b14s. Their r&d department here in SoCal tuned them for me. I can say this: AMAZING!!

body roll is completely eliminated making for wonderful flat turns and easy transitions.

Ride quality is as follows, and my wife agrees....
You can feel approximately 5% more of the bumps on the road, but they are all 10% less harsh. This is on our renowned Los Angeles freeways that make cobblestone feel like a roller rink......

Just my input.
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I have RCE Tarmac 0's. They are valved a bit stiffer than the ST's apparently. They are not comfier than stock.

In your case my vote would be KW V3 (then you can adjust the comfort level to your liking by adjusting compression/rebound). It won't be more comfortable than stock, but you can probably get it pretty close. Make sure to use the stock mounts, don't buy camber plates.

Second bet would be the cheaper ST's which are not adjustable (if you don't live somewhere with salty winters they're fine), these are likely more harsh than stock, but less than the RCE's.
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"Make sure to use the stock mounts, don't buy camber plates".



Agreed. Camber plates will make the ride a bit harsher and can knock and rattle when they wear.

You can use camber bolts to adjust camber to an extent.

I had stiff springs and camber plates on my last car, and between the stiff ride, and the camber plates knocking over every bump, I got to really dislike the car.
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