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Even if they had reversed it or taken it higher, I don't think it would have been the right decision. It played out on track, let it be.
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It's sad that a lot of people clearly are so biased they can't even admit there's fuckery happening. I hope if anything happens at all they fire Masi. |
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Edit: youtube search " Fernando Alonso's reaction to being told that lapped cars can't overtake
Even Alonso "Gets It" but Merc Fans see it the other way? All year cars have been let past on safety car. Let's be honest here, Hamilton wanted to pit, his team told him to stay out. That is where they lost the race. Masi correcting himself to release the lapped cars is the same situation he's followed all year. Hamilton and Mercedes were prepared to fight Max on fresh tires even before the call to let the back markers through. Last edited by Espi; 12-13-2021 at 12:34 PM. |
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At this point I think they should just tar and feather Masi and move on to next year. Quote:
The regulation is then explicit about when the race can be restarted. It states: “Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap. “If the clerk of the course considers track conditions are unsuitable for overtaking the message "OVERTAKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED" will be sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system “ This clause suggests that with the lapped car message having come out on lap 57, then the restart could only come at the end of the ‘following lap’- so lap 58, which was the end of the race.
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Hindsight is 20/20 (or in this case 2021). Yes, it would have been better for a red flag right when the car crashed. But that wasn't the ruling on the field so to speak. We can't go back and do it over again. |
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Only the cars between the front two were allowed to pass. That's weird. Other drivers found it weird.
There is no way for any call to not dictate the race outcome. They knew this meant it was probably handing the win to Max, but there was a chance otherwise (see Checo expertly defending earlier in the race) but it's still shady as heck just because of the inconsistencies - both this race and all season. Max had zero ducks to give and sent it. I'm not convinced he'd have played nice if Lewis had found a pass opportunity... Or maybe that happened and Lewis backed off. Either way, RB and Max have put themselves on the list I'll root against. And I like Checo, so that's disappointing he's on a shit team. Oh well.
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F1 was getting stale. Another championship for LH would be more stale. It is what it is.
Put em both out alone for 5 laps with softs and have at it. No penalties, take the gloves off... That would sum up the whole season |
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I'm just glad the race ended with both championship contenders crossing the finish line.
The circumstances leading up to that final lap are going to be hotly debated until the new season starts. Hopefully some kind of precedence is set for more consistent rule enforcement going forward... Happy for Max to get his first, and for RBR to secure another WDC. It was a very exciting season to watch unfold. I can only hope 2022 regs moving forward can provide more competitive racing. |
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All the lapped cars would've jumped out of Max's way with blue flags being shown to them, it would've been a non issue with 3 laps of green and then Max would've had drs on Hamilton. Masi took a situation with three by the book reasonable outcomes, two of which gives Max a shot at winning, and made up a fourth scenario that favors Max. Edit actually four scenarios that would've been fair, two that seem equal, one for Lewis and one for Max. And masi magicked up a fifth. |
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