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localhost · 09-13-2021, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Better fuel will be your answer.

Agreed - the fuel up here in Canada is honestly pretty bad. That said, that was basically half the reason for installing the meth injection - we should be increasing the octane rating of the fuel fairly significantly to the point it should be almost like race gas (according to my tuner at least).

Maybe it's placebo but I'm noticing that my supercharger is almost uncomfortably warm to the touch now after an extended drive. Before the added boost and meth, I could keep my hand on top of the unit and it'd be warm but not uncomfortable. Now I don't think I could keep my hands on it for longer than a few seconds.

Also, I don't know if this placebo on top of placebo, but the car seems significantly more eager and torquier when it's both cold outside and it hasn't warmed up yet. After I've been driving for a bit, it doesn't feel nearly as torquey as it did when everything was cold - I've noticed this mostly in third gear but second seems like that too.. I'm starting to wonder if that's really a heat soak issue or if I'm just imagining things. Maybe a vented hood might help?

CSG Mike · 09-13-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by localhost

Agreed - the fuel up here in Canada is honestly pretty bad. That said, that was basically half the reason for installing the meth injection - we should be increasing the octane rating of the fuel fairly significantly to the point it should be almost like race gas (according to my tuner at least).

Maybe it's placebo but I'm noticing that my supercharger is almost uncomfortably warm to the touch now after an extended drive. Before the added boost and meth, I could keep my hand on top of the unit and it'd be warm but not uncomfortable. Now I don't think I could keep my hands on it for longer than a few seconds.

Also, I don't know if this placebo on top of placebo, but the car seems significantly more eager and torquier when it's both cold outside and it hasn't warmed up yet. After I've been driving for a bit, it doesn't feel nearly as torquey as it did when everything was cold - I've noticed this mostly in third gear but second seems like that too.. I'm starting to wonder if that's really a heat soak issue or if I'm just imagining things. Maybe a vented hood might help?

Add heat exchangers and heat extraction.

localhost · 09-13-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Add heat exchangers and heat extraction.

Any ideas/suggestions on the best way to do that?

CSG Mike · 09-13-2021, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by localhost

Any ideas/suggestions on the best way to do that?

You'll want to consult with the shop that did your installs, as they'll be more familiar with your engine bay.

It's difficult to make blind recommendations, as this is not a plug and play solution.

FrickingReallySlow · 09-13-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by localhost

Any ideas/suggestions on the best way to do that?

The $0 method: Turn on your heater to the max and sweat a bit

you're helping to lower your coolant temp

CSG Mike · 09-13-2021, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FrickingReallySlow

The $0 method: Turn on your heater to the max and sweat a bit

you're helping to lower your coolant temp

That has nothing to do with charge temps.

B T · 09-13-2021, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by localhost

Any ideas/suggestions on the best way to do that?

Increase airflow to your heat exchanger, baffling, increased cooling system capacity (expense of weight) add thermal gaskets between your intake runners and the supercharger.

CSG Mike · 09-14-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by B T

Increase airflow to your heat exchanger, baffling, increased cooling system capacity (expense of weight) add thermal gaskets between your intake runners and the supercharger.

How do you do that when it's all 1 assembly?

B T · 09-14-2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

How do you do that when it's all 1 assembly?

I took it apart and reassembled. The runners are held on with hex socket bolts underneath and come off pretty easily.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/omA79aiukqDGgnbA6

CSG Mike · 09-14-2021, 04:26 PM

Do you have before/after temps? I find it unlikely that there would be a significant change, given the temperature of everything involved!

I've heard that adding a second heat exchanger can significantly drop temps though.

B T · 09-14-2021, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Do you have before/after temps? I find it unlikely that there would be a significant change, given the temperature of everything involved!

In fact I do! I wouldn't have pulled it to do this mod alone, it was out due to the engine blowing. It seemed to enable it to recover from heat soak a little faster (very little) and lowered my IAT by about 2-3 degrees. Negligible gains, but I figured I'd give it a shot. The goal was to just keep the heat from the head reaching the large flat area at the top of the supercharger. I was really hoping to find some kind of thermal insulating gasket for between the heads and runners originally, but gave up on that. Adding the larger reservoir to the system also dropped my IATs slightly, totaling around 4-6 degrees F in all.

Just an edit, I ended up using Fel-Pro Karropak material gasket maker. Ordered a few things before settling on this. Got it off Summit.

dpfarr · 09-15-2021, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brandonblt2

Just make sure you line up the markings on the fuel pump lid. And make sure the gaskets are installed in the fuel injectors. I had a gasket missing on one of my injectors and it throw gasoline all over my engine bay. My whole house smelled like gas for the rest of the day

Thankfully my garage is detached because I fired it up and there was a leak.

brandonblt2 · 09-16-2021, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Aztec

How does everyone's car sound once warmed up and idling?

I am getting an odd sound that seems out of place. My idle is around 900rpm
video for reference: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wCJwbXMPAy9Rhikj6
Thanks!

Should sound similar to stock.

dpfarr · 09-19-2021, 01:48 AM

Motherfucker. What a shit show.

I bought a used kit w v1 delicious ff and had a few hiccups. Missing some coolant tb tubing. “Oh you don’t need those, they’re for cold climate.” Took Edelbrock a couple weeks to get them to me.

Had to modify my alternator.

Was missing the connector to the fuel pump, had to wait a week for a new sock and connector. Just finished putting in the fuel pump and flashed the ECU.

Now it won’t start. Where it previously started w oem fp and no tune.

I can hear the fp run when I turn on before starting. I did a 10+ on and off hoping the fuel pressure would normalize (or get enough to start). Nothing though. Any advice on how to test this fuel pump? Swap the stock one back in?

It’s been a month plus and I wholly fucking regret buying some dudes used shit.

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dpfarr Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Drives: BRZ ts Location: SACRAMENTO Posts: 758 Thanks: 415 Thanked 796 Times in 303 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Motherfucker. What a shit show. I bought a used kit w v1 delicious ff and had a few hiccups. Missing some coolant tb tubing. “Oh you don’t need those, they’re for cold climate.” Took Edelbrock a couple weeks to get them to me. Had to modify my alternator. Was missing the connector to the fuel pump, had to wait a week for a new sock and connector. Just finished putting in the fuel pump and flashed the ECU. Now it won’t start. Where it previously started w oem fp and no tune. I can hear the fp run when I turn on before starting. I did a 10+ on and off hoping the fuel pressure would normalize (or get enough to start). Nothing though. Any advice on how to test this fuel pump? Swap the stock one back in? It’s been a month plus and I wholly fucking regret buying some dudes used shit.

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