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Dark · 02-28-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

The Supra has a huge fan base. probably bigger than the cayman...

Toyota is going to bring style, power, and vaule just like old Supra. Mk4 Supra was faster than cars twice its price.

C7 out sales those cayman and boxter big time. Not everyone wants a German car. Parts and labor on these things are crazy. I should know I own two BMWs. You talk like everyone is rushing out and buying a German car lol.

again the old supra started out with decent sales. You must not remember the 90s. There was a lot more to it than that.

I hope you're right on styling, power and value, but I think we can only pick two not all 3.

C7 outsells those car in the US because here is its home. Everywhere else in the world, Cayman/Boxster outsells C7. You do know that car companies make money from sales around the world, not just the US, right?

gymratter · 02-28-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark

I hope you're right on styling, power and value, but I think we can only pick two not all 3.

C7 outsells those car in the US because here is its home. Everywhere else in the world, Cayman/Boxster outsells C7. You do know that car companies make money from sales around the world, not just the US, right?

Tada San has said the car will make lots of power.
Kevin hunter has said $50-$60k
The concept looks great.

Moving on, yes those are US sales. I'm bring up US sales cause I live here and what are the world wide sales on both cars? Any links???

US market is one of the biggest in the world. Also keep in mind GM has just starting selling the vette in other markets not too long ago.

Pizzman · 02-28-2014, 04:56 PM

I would rather be ran over by a ft-1 concept than drive a corvette

Dark · 02-28-2014, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter

Tada San has said the car will make lots of power.
Kevin hunter has said $50-$60k
The concept looks great.

Moving on, yes those are US sales. I'm bring up US sales cause I live here and what are the world wide sales on both cars? Any links???

US market is one of the biggest in the world. Also keep in mind GM has just starting selling the vette in other markets not too long ago.

You probably have to do your own research on Corvette, but Cayman/Boxster sale was almost 20K in 2012 and sales accelerated faster than 911 with the overall growth of 27% in 2013. I would imagine at least 27% growth? Do the match.
http://www.porsche.com/international.../dataandfacts/

rice_classic · 02-28-2014, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark

You probably have to do your own research on Corvette, but Cayman/Boxster sale was almost 20K in 2012 and sales accelerated faster than 911 with the overall growth of 27% in 2013. I would imagine at least 27% growth? Do the match.
http://www.porsche.com/international.../dataandfacts/

Well that makes sense. The Cayman has the engine is the correct place.

If I were to buy a Porsche I'd rather have the Cayman.

serialk11r · 02-28-2014, 06:59 PM

The 991 also now costs 100k minimum or so out the door after tax, which is a shitload. The 997 had 10k lower msrp.

raven1231 · 02-28-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Lets all get back on topic with FT-1 now

This ! Lol

Dark · 02-28-2014, 07:20 PM

I didn't know why I swayed so far from the Topic. LOL

Dark · 02-28-2014, 10:34 PM

I thought Toyota said that production FT-1 will use in house powertrain, and I really hope they do. While BMW I6 has a lot of potential in making power, I don't want to deal the problems that come with it.

Dark · 02-28-2014, 10:46 PM

Hopefully, they have a crazy turbo hybrid tech to pair with a V6/I6 made in house. Lately, Toyota always has a surprised reveal.

TRD_86 · 02-28-2014, 11:07 PM

Let wait to see FT-1 vs RC F GT3 racing 540hp @ 2750 lbs. Damn these duo going to be sweet on the race track

Whitigir · 03-12-2014, 11:07 AM

it makes no sense to have another 2.0 engine with around 200 hp As much as 86 does.

Now, if 2.0 with Hybrid and pumping 300 HP

NA V6 or I6 with 300 hp

Twin Turbo V6 or I6 with 450 HP

Those made more senses

Dark · 03-12-2014, 03:37 PM

2017? That's too long to wait. Again, it's just a speculation, I can see the car come to the market a lot faster.

Dark · 03-13-2014, 12:45 AM

I thought the project started since FT-HS. I was expecting 2016 model with debut in next year Tokyo Auto Show.

View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
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I don't know, but its time for a new name.	125	25.41%
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02-28-2014, 10:34 PM	#527
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I thought Toyota said that production FT-1 will use in house powertrain, and I really hope they do. While BMW I6 has a lot of potential in making power, I don't want to deal the problems that come with it. __________________ Dark

02-28-2014, 10:46 PM	#528
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hopefully, they have a crazy turbo hybrid tech to pair with a V6/I6 made in house. Lately, Toyota always has a surprised reveal. __________________ Dark

03-12-2014, 03:37 PM	#531
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2017? That's too long to wait. Again, it's just a speculation, I can see the car come to the market a lot faster. __________________ Dark

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Pizzman Crap another obsession. Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: In the IE under the C Posts: 213 Thanks: 95 Thanked 161 Times in 80 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would rather be ran over by a ft-1 concept than drive a corvette

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TRD_86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 86 white Location: ca Posts: 725 Thanks: 69 Thanked 129 Times in 93 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Let wait to see FT-1 vs RC F GT3 racing 540hp @ 2750 lbs. Damn these duo going to be sweet on the race track

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Whitigir Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 450 awhp twin turbo vr4 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,012 Thanks: 94 Thanked 273 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	it makes no sense to have another 2.0 engine with around 200 hp As much as 86 does. Now, if 2.0 with Hybrid and pumping 300 HP NA V6 or I6 with 300 hp Twin Turbo V6 or I6 with 450 HP Those made more senses

03-13-2014, 12:45 AM	#532
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I thought the project started since FT-HS. I was expecting 2016 model with debut in next year Tokyo Auto Show. __________________ Dark

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