Official: Toyota FT-1 Concept / First New Supra Prototype Spotted!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard

The fact that the 2nd Gen is going to be completely different worries me. I like this car but if you make the 2nd gen much better with none of the issues we are having now what is the incentive to keep this generation.

They could put camry steering in it, that alone would be reason enough.

New generations are not always better.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by thill

Okay but that quote is not directly from Tada nor is it 100% etched in stone. "Hinted", "potentially", and even "concept" leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

I am sure the successor will be different, but that is to be expected. How much different is the real question, and we have not even seen a mid-cycle refresh yet so this is many years away.

yes but it gives us clues on what to expect.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Yeah I actually hate the values of Supras being so inflated because they can make stupid power. It's a car I wouldn't mind for a daily driver if the values weren't so high.

Accelerated Performance does have a junkyard of nice MKIV's sitting in their back lot. Would make many fanboys cry I bet.

The sweet spot for HP for me on the street in any reasonable sized/mid weight car is around 400-450HP. Beyond that and it becomes a bit silly. Hell even that is a bit silly. Most drivers can't control it (including myself I'm sure) hence all the dumb driver aids on all these cars.

Oh I agree. But the ability to do so based on superb engineering is awesome. Plus even if you don't tap that potential, the benefit is a reliable bulletproof motor. I miss the days when Toyota made beast motors. It would be nice to have that back in a performance vehicle. I had an old Corolla as my first car and that thing had a forged crank, oil squirters and a windage tray. The old Previa was mid engined, flat-4 horizontally mounted (not boxer) and had brake ducts for cooling. I mean wtf Toyota accountants? This is Supra, so don't mess about!

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by gymratter

this is more about how Toyota is spreading Tada San out if you will rather than just FT1 alone.

I was totally teasing! All in good fun.

[Tt3Sheppard]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

They could put camry steering in it, that alone would be reason enough.

New generations are not always better.

That is true! Who knows if Toyota is even able to develop such a car on its own.

[daiheadjai]

I, for one, welcome a new inline-4 powerplant.

[Whitigir]

Confirmed drive train for the next supra

2.0 inline 4 turbo

2.5 inline 6 hybrid

There you go

Pick your poison.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Confirmed drive train for the next supra

2.0 inline 4 turbo

2.5 inline 6 hybrid

There you go

Pick your poison.

Where did u see I-6?

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Guff

Oh, they're great street cars. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that a well sorted APU Supra is a better street car than an FRS! It's more comfortable, it's got less rattles, it's quieter, it's much better on the highway, it's certainly as fun to drive on backroads.

That being said, "well sorted APU" means less than 600whp on a small, quick spooling turbo. And of course some decent tires.

Regardless, the MKV is likely going to be significantly more refined than the MKIV. And assuming that it will be capable of similar horsepower numbers, it could certainly be an evolution of the MKIV, which is what everyone is craving.

I think they forget the difference between a well sorted supra and one someone buys and tries to make it good....

how many supras have you had your hands in now? lol

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by KAR

hmm, mine handles pretty well on the twisties and even better in the straights, mustang is not even close..

My Supra was stone stock. I was never really happy with it. This was before Fast and Furious when it became the car to have. If I had held on to it for a couple more years I would have been able to sell it for a lot more.

[ichitaka05]

Tada-san isn't Chief Engineer for FT-1. He'll be just overseeing the FT-1 project, but he won't be fully involved as FT-86 Concept.

...but that's just what I've heard. Take it as grain of salt

[Guff]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

I think they forget the difference between a well sorted supra and one someone buys and tries to make it good....

how many supras have you had your hands in now? lol

Too many. Or maybe not enough?

I think the White car was number 8, but i don't even remember lol.

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I know what BPU is but have actually never seen the term APU, so while I can deduce the actual meaning of the acronym, that will be thrown out the window and I'll just go ahead and decide that it means "AWESOME POWER UPGRADE!!!!!!!!!1!"

It means Advanced Performance Upgrades, which basically means single turbo and beyond.

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Yeah I actually hate the values of Supras being so inflated because they can make stupid power. It's a car I wouldn't mind for a daily driver if the values weren't so high.

Accelerated Performance does have a junkyard of nice MKIV's sitting in their back lot. Would make many fanboys cry I bet.

The sweet spot for HP for me on the street in any reasonable sized/mid weight car is around 400-450HP. Beyond that and it becomes a bit silly. Hell even that is a bit silly. Most drivers can't control it (including myself I'm sure) hence all the dumb driver aids on all these cars.

The price inflation is also due to the rarity factor and the fact that Supras are being crashed the time...

And maybe I should pay Accelerated Performance a visit...

[KAR]

Originally Posted by Rampage

My Supra was stone stock. I was never really happy with it. This was before Fast and Furious when it became the car to have. If I had held on to it for a couple more years I would have been able to sell it for a lot more.

suspension wise, I have zeal coilovers, tanabe sways, cusco strut towers.. I would battle with Tanner with his AEM 350Z and tuereck with his soltice back in the day..

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by gymratter

doesn't a chief engineer over see a project? idk...

Different kind of Chief Engineer.