Cluster swap not cross-checking - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

02maher · 12-16-2020, 11:08 AM

Hello 👋🏽

Is it possible to swap a speedometer with a used one. I tried to do a « hand shake » with the techstream registering the communication ID but it doesn’t work and shows this message « Unable to cross-check with the meter/SCU ECU... please refer to the repair manual »

Thing is I had to swap my starting system and now I’m trying to at least have my original speedometer as it has the correct mileage in kilometers.

ichitaka05 · 12-17-2020, 11:00 AM

I have used kouki 86 cluster gauge in my zenki BRZ. Working without an issue

gpvecchi · 12-17-2020, 04:12 PM

Keyless cars don't need cluster pairing, just cars with physical keys. For the first ones, just swap the clusters, regarding the second ones I have no experience, as not available in Europe.
BTW, the only way to restore Km is to desolder a chip. If the clusters come from same MY you can just swap the chips, otherwise you need someone to recode the chip.

02maher · 12-17-2020, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

Keyless cars don't need cluster pairing, just cars with physical keys. For the first ones, just swap the clusters, regarding the second ones I have no experience, as not available in Europe.
BTW, the only way to restore Km is to desolder a chip. If the clusters come from same MY you can just swap the chips, otherwise you need someone to recode the chip.

Yeah my car isn’t the keyless version and the cluster that I have now is digital, unlike my original... So in this case my understanding is that the only way is to reprogram it right?

gpvecchi · 12-18-2020, 03:09 AM

If you have the 2017+ version with LCD display, it's specific for the keyless, I don't know if it will work on non keyless...

02maher · 12-18-2020, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

If you have the 2017+ version with LCD display, it's specific for the keyless, I don't know if it will work on non keyless...

No I have the 2013 model... both mine and the swapped one, differences are that my original is not digital and is in kilometers.

SAWYER · 03-31-2024, 03:05 PM

Any updates on this? Currently swapping my 2013 FRS Cluster with another one. (also from a 2013 FRS)… On Techstream when I attempt to do the handshake procedure I run into “Error ECU Communication ID Registration … Unable to cross-check with the meter / SCU ECU. Please refer to the repair manual.

12-16-2020, 11:08 AM	#1
02maher Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Drives: Gt86 2013 Location: Dubai Posts: 68 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cluster swap not cross-checking Hello 👋🏽 Is it possible to swap a speedometer with a used one. I tried to do a « hand shake » with the techstream registering the communication ID but it doesn’t work and shows this message « Unable to cross-check with the meter/SCU ECU... please refer to the repair manual » Thing is I had to swap my starting system and now I’m trying to at least have my original speedometer as it has the correct mileage in kilometers.

12-17-2020, 11:00 AM	#2
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gpvecchi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: Toyota 86 GT Limited PP (Model G) Location: Italy Posts: 1,024 Thanks: 406 Thanked 342 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Keyless cars don't need cluster pairing, just cars with physical keys. For the first ones, just swap the clusters, regarding the second ones I have no experience, as not available in Europe. BTW, the only way to restore Km is to desolder a chip. If the clusters come from same MY you can just swap the chips, otherwise you need someone to recode the chip.

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SAWYER Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S (Base) Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Any updates on this? Currently swapping my 2013 FRS Cluster with another one. (also from a 2013 FRS)… On Techstream when I attempt to do the handshake procedure I run into “Error ECU Communication ID Registration … Unable to cross-check with the meter / SCU ECU. Please refer to the repair manual.

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