Potential Cause of rumored GR86’s blown engine? Seal packing(RTV) was peeled off

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I could imagine the guy on the next shift came in to calibrate the machine and went "lets go ahead and recalibrate this and hope all those other engines were okay."

Even applying the FIPG by hand temperature has a huge effect. I usually drop the tube in a bucket of warm water before use just for consistency sake.

If it is even checked per shift. Could be a daily or even weekly check since robotic operations "usually" don't vary much after set up. Since it appears that it is an excessive material issue over an improperly applied issue it should be easy to catch when the expected volumes used are off. All depends upon how tight the SPC is on the process. I can't imagine to long a period but who knows?

[ROFL it's Waffle]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

No. As long as you have the documentation to prove the work.

What I should start doing from now on, is create a maintenance binder (or even a digital photo album on my phone) to keep track of the maintenance, with pics of oil, the act of oil draining, supporting documents of each event. At least they'll be timestamped, and I can keep track of all my vehicles.

I used to think this was an extreme approach (still might be), but it would absolutely be proof of equivalent completed maintenance.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Petah78

This is truly a game of Russian Roulette. lol

[Petah78]

Originally Posted by ROFL it's Waffle

What I should start doing from now on, is create a maintenance binder (or even a digital photo album on my phone) to keep track of the maintenance, with pics of oil, the act of oil draining, supporting documents of each event. At least they'll be timestamped, and I can keep track of all my vehicles.

I used to think this was an extreme approach (still might be), but it would absolutely be proof of equivalent completed maintenance.

I actually thought about wearing a GoPro on my forehead, like those YT first person view car reviewers and recording the entire oil change process. Start with capturing the VIN, date and mileage and capture the entire 15-20 min process. Save in onto your laptop/computer. Can't say i didn't change the oil. But having said that, knowing this might be a potential problem, might just bring it to the dealer for the peace of mind.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Petah78

This is truly a game of Russian Roulette. lol

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Car forums and Facebook groups make problems look more prevalent than they really are.

You aren't hearing about the thousands of cars with this engine that aren't having an issue.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Car forums and Facebook groups make problems look more prevalent than they really are.

You aren't hearing about the thousands of cars with this engine that aren't having an issue.

This ^

Is good to aware of the issue and monitor what you can but as I said earlier in the thread there are tens of thousands of Ascents out there with fundamentally the same block with no reported issues.

[dawsonj87]

Originally Posted by toeout

I actually bought the car in Feb 2022 from Orchard Park, NY. That was the closest I could find one.

It got down to about 8°F the night I was there. The dealership had it washed I think before I got there because the front pads were frozen so hard to the discs, that they had blow torch the discs to get the car moving. We initially thought it was the hill control acting up. I was marveling how well it shifted in that kind of cold, compared to my 2013, when I had it.

Then the next day I drove it home to TN. Didn't drive in TN during the winter and it was pretty warm here anyway.

Feb 2022 is when I started seriously inquiring here in Buffalo-- I inquired about this car the day before you picked it up! You snagged it just before I did. Sorry about how gross our winters are up here.

[toeout]

Worked out better for you than me!

Originally Posted by dawsonj87

Feb 2022 is when I started seriously inquiring here in Buffalo-- I inquired about this car the day before you picked it up! You snagged it just before I did.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by toeout

Worked out better for you than me!

[chipmunk]

Screw this (again)! Let's crowd-fund someone like Fel Pro/ Fed Mogul to get them to make us full gasket kits for FA24 engines!

[jdmwol2ks]

Just read through this thread and now i'm slightly worried. I was checking my oil a few days ago and when cleaning off the dip stick, i felt a small bulge right between the low and high indicator (if i recall correctly). I looked at it, and it looked like some grey plastic/epoxy type material that was stuck to the dipstick. When using a cloth to wipe off the oil from the dip stick, this material didn't budge, but when i picked at it with my nail it was somewhat malleable. I wonder if this could be the same material? The interesting thing, is that it is stuck to the dipstick and is small in size.

I'll try to get pictures in the next few days and share. I was also bringing the car into the dealer anyways for something else and will ask about it. I just got the car a couple weeks ago and it has about 500 miles.

Wonder if it is the same material as described in this thread...

[jimmyjazz86]

I wonder if this is why there was that QC hold on a lot of the cars that were supposed to be delivered from January/February.

[CincyJohn]

Originally Posted by jimmyjazz86

I wonder if this is why there was that QC hold on a lot of the cars that were supposed to be delivered from January/February.

Most people think the QC hold was related to the hyperflash blinkers. It is possible it was this (or both), but I doubt it. Also, the QC hold effected cars that had already been built but hadn't left port (mine was effected). Doubt port would have had the ability/skills/materials to do something about this.

[Petah78]

Originally Posted by CincyJohn

Most people think the QC hold was related to the hyperflash blinkers. It is possible it was this (or both), but I doubt it. Also, the QC hold effected cars that had already been built but hadn't left port (mine was effected). Doubt port would have had the ability/skills/materials to do something about this.

My car with a build date of 04/22 still have the hyperflash problem so that is not resolved yet. As such, I doubt the QC hold in Jan/Feb was related. I have been reading more about this Jan/FEb QC hold, do you have more info about this?