Track Chronicle of my 2014 BRZ

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Geez man, I've met drug dealers less shady about their top of the line stuff*


*I'm too lame to actually know any drug dealers

Most people think I'm crazy when they find out my pads cost $1518.

That is not a typo.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Most people think I'm crazy when they find out my pads cost $1518.

That is not a typo.

I was amazed the first time you posted that, I think this is the third time I've seen you talk about your magic pads.

All about smiles per mile, and >20x track days on $1.5k pads is cheaper than most track rats spend on consumables.

You don't need to convince me they're worth it, I just wish you'd stop dangling bait to "pm me for details/price" and just endorse the product.

[JSube]

Holy S**t. @CSG Mike which pads are you running? I have tried PF08s (6 days and they are gone), DTC60 (3 track days) DTC70 (again 3 days). Killer for us is Summit Point which is hard on brakes. I have OEM caliper, titanium shims and stock blank rotors. Sticking with Hawk because of the contingency dollars. But if you have a better recipe, I am all eyes and ears. Thank you in advance.

Cheers,

Lutfy[/QUOTE]

Somewhere between Hawks and Mike's $1500 pads made of pure unobtainium, you might get good service from a set of GLoc pads. When I traded my STI for the BRZ this year I had GLoc R16 front pads and older Carbotech XP12 rears that fit the BRZ Brembos so I put them on the new car. 12 days on track this year I see no wear on the rears and think I see some wear on the fronts but nothing close to replacement level. Eventually I'll have GLocs all around, but for now everything seems to work just fine and wear is definitely minimal.

[lutfy]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Most people think I'm crazy when they find out my pads cost $1518.

That is not a typo.

It's worth it for me as I track from Jan to Dec up and down East Coast. Be great if you can share the specs thanks in advance.

[CSG Mike]

Sorry, gotta PM me for these. Out of my control.

Specs? They're 0.44mu and rated for 800C. These are not pads you buy for their paper specs, nor should you ever buy pads based on paper specs. Brake pad specs are about as accurate as tire UTQG ratings.

[endless_pain]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

@endless_pain would you believe I'm at nearly 20 track days on the same set of pads on my BRZ on stock calipers?

Unless AndyBRZ runs the same pad, your comment/question is nonsensical.

[Deep Six]

Planning to finally venture that far north sometime next year. Which groups use the Grand course at VIR for their events?

[AndyBRZ]

TrackDaze offers one day with the grand course.
For me it is the only group I have used for the GrandCourse but I am sure there are more.

Originally Posted by Deep Six

Planning to finally venture that far north sometime next year. Which groups use the Grand course at VIR for their events?

[AndyBRZ]

Mine are Ferodo DS1.11 since I had my AP racing big brake kit.
I did get pad breakage in a couple of pads which alledgedly was caused by improper bedding according to the supplier (I do not buy this theory at all but whatever, I've got free replacement as it happened very early and in one day usually).
This is why my next set once I kill these Ferodos will be Carbotech XP-12.

Originally Posted by endless_pain

Unless AndyBRZ runs the same pad, your comment/question is nonsensical.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by endless_pain

Unless AndyBRZ runs the same pad, your comment/question is nonsensical.

Why? There are many compounds that offer this type of life and capability, albeit at a much higher initial cost than the average entry level race pad.

[AndyBRZ]

Mine are Ferodo DS1.11 since I had my AP racing big brake kit.
I did get pad breakage in a couple of pads which alledgedly was caused by improper bedding according to the supplier (I do not buy this theory at all but whatever, I've got free replacement as it happened very early and in one day usually).
This is why my next set once I kill these Ferodos will be Carbotech XP-12.

Originally Posted by endless_pain

Unless AndyBRZ runs the same pad, your comment/question is nonsensical.

[AndyBRZ]

I cannot thank you enough for sharing your knowledge with us.
Thanks to you, I have decided to go the Exedy route as well and also ordered the 30502AA150 clutch release bearing part from Subaru.
When I removed the transmission, I was greeted by a ball of shredded metal that used to be the clutch release bearing.
Signs of high temperature in the pilot shaft and the fork was scratched heavily as well.

Originally Posted by RallySTI

Subaru updated the release bearing for these cars. The new part number is 30502AA150. This bearing (manufactured by NTN) has a better grease to deal with heat. The new release bearing isn't available in the North American aftermarket as of yet.

I work for EXEDY USA as a technical coordinator for the aftermarket, so I have a little bit of insider knowledge on these parts. We are wanting to supply this updated bearing (seems that all Subaru push type release bearings were revised) with our kits but cannot purchase this part from NTN USA as of yet.

I would stay away from the aluminum flywheels. McLeod is an American owned company but that does not mean their products are all coming from the US. They are one of our customers and supply quite a few of our products, modified and/or painted by them.

The aluminum flywheel are light but at a cost. They are all a 3 piece design ( flywheel body, friction surface and ring gear) and this can lead to warping/run-out issues as well as they are not a strong (burst resistant) as a 1 piece forged chromoly/steel flywheels. The biggest issue I personally had with aluminum flywheel is the friction facing becoming warped and causing disengagement issues well before the clutch needed to be serviced.

When the clutch or RB gives out in my 2013 BRZ (daily driven with as many track days as my work schedule allows) here is my plan of attack.

Velox fork and pivot
Updated release bearing from Subaru
(EXEDY clutch and flywheel for apparent reasons)
Either: the TF02 light weight flywheel and stage 1 (22% reduction in mass vs OE)
or the EXEDY Hyper single TH08SDV (dual friction) (33% reduction in mass vs OE)

[Takumi788]

I am still on stock calipers running DTC60's all around with DBA3000 rotors and a velox brake cooling kit. I am not quite as fast as a few of you that have commented but I have 10 days on them (3 at Watkins Glen and i drive to and from the track) and they are still good and I haven't had any fade with this setup. I have to replace the front rotors tho. They are a little past crazing at this point. One day I will be bawler enough to buy a AP Sprint kit. Just thought I would share my stock caliper findings.

This thread is great. Thanks!

[RallySTI]

Originally Posted by AndyBRZ

I cannot thank you enough for sharing your knowledge with us.
Thanks to you, I have decided to go the Exedy route as well and also ordered the 30502AA150 clutch release bearing part from Subaru.
When I renoved the transmission, I was greeted by a ball of shredded metal that used to be the clutch release bearing.
Signs of high temperature in the pilot shaft and the fork was scratched heavily as well.

What EXEDY clutch or flywheel did you choose ?