WORKS Motorsports Turbo Kit Experience - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

raven1231 · 04-30-2015, 07:29 AM

So, after much going back and forth, I decided on the WORKS Turbo kit. I know the haters out there will bitch and moan, but for the money, reliability of the components, ease of install, and power levels that I'm looking for it's a no brainer.

I will be ordering this next week! Those who are interested or on the fence about this kit stay tuned! I'll be updating this thread with progress pics from delivery, install, dyno, driving experience and feedback throughout the whole process.

Plan is to run the following-

WORKS Turbo Kit
Borla UEL header
MANZO Catless Front Pipe
MANZO Over Pipe
Ikon Motorsports Cat Back Exhaust
Vent Pod AEM Wideband/Boost Gauge
Open Flash Tablet E85/93 octane

erbaker67 · 04-30-2015, 08:56 AM

Looking forward to it!

hmong337 · 04-30-2015, 09:54 AM

I truly hope you are getting the one with the a2w intercooler.

raven1231 · 04-30-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hmong337

I truly hope you are getting the one with the a2w intercooler.

And it begins....lol

hmong337 · 04-30-2015, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by raven1231

And it begins....lol

I hate to be THAT guy but being around turbocharged mr2's my entire life, I think I know a little bit about proper intercooling. Good intercooling is VITAL to a reliable setup.

I wish you all the best on your blow-through setup. I seriously would love to be proven wrong. Especially on a car that is known to run hot even WITH proper intercooling.

Cheers.

wparsons · 04-30-2015, 11:46 AM

Mid engine cars with minimal airflow to an intercooler are slightly different than front engine cars with a big opening for a good air to air intercooler...

Air to water intercooling isn't going to drop under hood temperatures either. All turbo'd cars are going to need oil cooling, and everything you can do to manage underhood heat. Coat the exhaust parts, wrap them, turbo blanket, etc.

cdrazic93 · 04-30-2015, 12:14 PM

hey i heard you like intercooling, heres an intercooler for your intercooler so you can internally cool while your cooling internally

hmong337 · 04-30-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons

Mid engine cars with minimal airflow to an intercooler are slightly different than front engine cars with a big opening for a good air to air intercooler...

Air to water intercooling isn't going to drop under hood temperatures either. All turbo'd cars are going to need oil cooling, and everything you can do to manage underhood heat. Coat the exhaust parts, wrap them, turbo blanket, etc.

Well that's my point. Mid-engine cars suffer from poor intercooling. Even with my upgraded Greddy SMIC, it's only mediocre at best. I'll either have to cut out my trunk to lay a large intercooler in there (not willing to do this!), or run an a2w setup (which I am currently piecing together).

Have you seen the stage 1 Works kit? Front engine or not, it lacks an intercooler. I hope to god you're not gonna argue with me over this. The turbo will blow nothing but hot air! In a strict drag setup, sure. But anything else all I see is trouble. At the very minimum you should be running WMI if you're going non-intercooled.

raven1231 · 04-30-2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hmong337

I hate to be THAT guy but being around turbocharged mr2's my entire life, I think I know a little bit about proper intercooling. Good intercooling is VITAL to a reliable setup.

I wish you all the best on your blow-through setup. I seriously would love to be proven wrong. Especially on a car that is known to run hot even WITH proper intercooling.

Cheers.

Might upgrade later down the road. However the tuners that have installed them so far said heat wasn't an issue.

stevo585 · 04-30-2015, 01:07 PM

At low boost on e85 you should have no issues imo. Its essentially chemical inter cooling with e85.

hmong337 · 04-30-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231

Might upgrade later down the road. However the tuners that have installed them so far said heat wasn't an issue.

...yet, there's a 100 page topic about "combating heat". And, everybody who is turbo is running into heat issues unless they've addressed everything.

Don't get me wrong, I like this kit WITH the a2w setup. I would never do the stage 1 though. AIT's are probably scary!

raven1231 · 04-30-2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hmong337

...yet, there's a 100 page topic about "combating heat". And, everybody who is turbo is running into heat issues unless they've addressed everything.

Don't get me wrong, I like this kit WITH the a2w setup. I would never do the stage 1 though. AIT's are probably scary!

If it becomes an issue then I will upgrade

CSG Mike · 04-30-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231

And it begins....lol

Apples and oranges, but compare the innovate intercooled vs non-intercooled.

CSG Mike · 04-30-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hmong337

...yet, there's a 100 page topic about "combating heat". And, everybody who is turbo is running into heat issues unless they've addressed everything.

Don't get me wrong, I like this kit WITH the a2w setup. I would never do the stage 1 though. AIT's are probably scary!

Last time I tried to discuss this....

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Originally Posted by WORKS

That's a valid concern we have addressed. The exhaust piping included in our kit is ceramic coated which cuts down on radiant engine bay heat significantly. We use a battery heatshield (included in the kit) and have monitored battery surface temperatures after track sessions and have found them to be a non-issue when using the heatshield. We did see some slight heat effects on the thin plastic battery tray after extended track sessions so we redesigned our heatshield to cover the tray as well. The injector ECU showed no heat effect. We provide thermal wrap in our kit to protect all wiring in the area of the turbo.

Cheers.

We've melted fans with exhaust manifolds that are both Ceramic coated AND wrapped AND heat shielded. Are you sure that's enough?

You guys use thermocouples; what kind of EGTs were you seeing with your tune, and what was the temperature of the surface of your battery, heat shield, and exhaust manifold after a session on track?

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

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So, I will be stepping out of this thread now, lest someone become offended that I'm questioning their product in the matter that I question all products.

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