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Old 08-31-2011, 11:59 PM   #1
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FT-86, manual or automatic transmission???

I'm still debating. So I'm wondering what you guys have to say.. & Why??
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Manual , my auto is so boring
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Well I'm only 16 and planning on getting the ft86 as my first car and don't know how to drive stick but my dad loves driving stick and I slays hear how fun it is but I feel like I'm not going to have time to change the song on my iPod while driving.
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Well I'm only 16 and planning on getting the ft86 as my first car and don't know how to drive stick but my dad loves driving stick and I slays hear how fun it is but I feel like I'm not going to have time to change the song on my iPod while driving.
Don't get a stick.

Get one of those juke cube cars.
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Manual in FT for me. I still prefer driving manuals. but I dont mind autos... the SVX only came in auto. Fun to drive considering it was only 4EAT
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In before the close. Go with the manual. That way you wont make little children in Ethiopia cry.
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Well I'm only 16 and planning on getting the ft86 as my first car and don't know how to drive stick but my dad loves driving stick and I slays hear how fun it is but I feel like I'm not going to have time to change the song on my iPod while driving.
I drive stig & eat my lunch while commuting to work... It's easier then u think.

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I honestly believe that 100% of cars should be manuals.

1. Driving a Manual transmission is more engaging which forces people to look up from their smart phones and actually pay attention to driving their car. Seriously, we could reduce the accident rate (and my insurance) significantly if people actually paid attention to DRIVING.

2. Driving a stick is more fun, it just is. YOU are driving the car, if you want to throw high revs at it through a corner and whip the tail out that is entirely up to you.

3. You get better gas mileage in a Manual unless you drive like #2... Which you will because it's fun.

4. Can a Manumatic/dsg/slushbox shift faster than me? Probably it can but who gives a shit really?!? Every time I get in my dads Porsche 911 I think about how much better it would be with a standard and it's got the "uber" dsg. Yes it shifts quickly but I feel much less engaged. I don't really feel like I'm driving the car, I feel like it drives me and it's a PORSCHE 911!
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I honestly believe that 100% of cars should be manuals.

1. Driving a Manual transmission is more engaging which forces people to look up from their smart phones and actually pay attention to driving their car. Seriously, we could reduce the accident rate (and my insurance) significantly if people actually paid attention to DRIVING.

2. Driving a stick is more fun, it just is. YOU are driving the car, if you want to throw high revs at it through a corner and whip the tail out that is entirely up to you.

3. You get better gas mileage in a Manual unless you drive like #2... Which you will because it's fun.

4. Can a Manumatic/dsg/slushbox shift faster than me? Probably it can but who gives a shit really?!? Every time I get in my dads Porsche 911 I think about how much better it would be with a standard and it's got the "uber" dsg. Yes it shifts quickly but I feel much less engaged. I don't really feel like I'm driving the car, I feel like it drives me and it's a PORSCHE 911!
Absolutely agree! And who cares if a dual clutch set up is faster. Last time I checked none of us are racing our street cars on a track for money. We drive them for fun and shifting for yourself = fun.

luisjr the easiest way to learn how to drive a manual transmission is to buy a car with a manual transmission. You won't hurt it. In fact you'll have it figured out in less than a day and then by the end of the week most people won't even be able to tell that you just learned.
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For the FR-S I would get a manual, the auto in this isn't going to be all that special.

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I honestly believe that 100% of cars should be manuals.

1. Driving a Manual transmission is more engaging which forces people to look up from their smart phones and actually pay attention to driving their car. Seriously, we could reduce the accident rate (and my insurance) significantly if people actually paid attention to DRIVING.

2. Driving a stick is more fun, it just is. YOU are driving the car, if you want to throw high revs at it through a corner and whip the tail out that is entirely up to you.

3. You get better gas mileage in a Manual unless you drive like #2... Which you will because it's fun.

4. Can a Manumatic/dsg/slushbox shift faster than me? Probably it can but who gives a shit really?!? Every time I get in my dads Porsche 911 I think about how much better it would be with a standard and it's got the "uber" dsg. Yes it shifts quickly but I feel much less engaged. I don't really feel like I'm driving the car, I feel like it drives me and it's a PORSCHE 911!
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1. The only thing I partially agree with is "driving a manual is more engaging" as long as you're comparing manual to an ordinary PRND2L automatic transmission. Driving a manual isn't like doing trigonometry. If you're not capable of talking on a phone or sending a text message while driving a manual transmission I don't think we should allow you to have passengers or even a radio in your manual transmission car.

2. More fun to YOU. I like my Xbox more than PS3, my roommate likes his PS3 more than Xbox. Who is right? No one, it's personal preference.

3. Modern automatics are getting fuel economy ratings that are damn near equal to a manual. If 1-2mpg will really break the bank maybe a sports car isn't what you should be in the market for?

4. Can a DSG transmission shift faster than you? Yes, absolutely. Not as engaging? Purely your opinion and you're entitled to it, but in my opinion an F1 style paddle shift setup can be just as engaging as a 3 pedal car. You still have to focus on your shifting, but you don't have to focus on pedal pressing so you can focus more on the road ahead of you. I'll take that trade off.

I have 5spd manuals in both my Talon and RX, but I am excited about getting a new sports car with a fast shifting automatic with paddle shifters.

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I honestly believe that 100% of cars should be manuals.

1. Driving a Manual transmission is more engaging which forces people to look up from their smart phones and actually pay attention to driving their car. Seriously, we could reduce the accident rate (and my insurance) significantly if people actually paid attention to DRIVING.

2. Driving a stick is more fun, it just is. YOU are driving the car, if you want to throw high revs at it through a corner and whip the tail out that is entirely up to you.

3. You get better gas mileage in a Manual unless you drive like #2... Which you will because it's fun.

4. Can a Manumatic/dsg/slushbox shift faster than me? Probably it can but who gives a shit really?!? Every time I get in my dads Porsche 911 I think about how much better it would be with a standard and it's got the "uber" dsg. Yes it shifts quickly but I feel much less engaged. I don't really feel like I'm driving the car, I feel like it drives me and it's a PORSCHE 911!
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Well I'm only 16 and planning on getting the ft86 as my first car and don't know how to drive stick but my dad loves driving stick and I slays hear how fun it is but I feel like I'm not going to have time to change the song on my iPod while driving.
If you're worried about doing things while driving stick, you should probably learn how to do it on a beater first. Learning to drive stick is hard on a car, which is not something you want to do to a new car.

Drive stick is like loving a woman...or riding a bicycle. Yeah a bicycle is something I can explain easier on teh internets. It's all about timing, balance, and finesse and you'll never forget how to do it.

Totally talking about a bicycle BTW .
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If you're worried about doing things while driving stick, you should probably learn how to do it on a beater first. Learning to drive stick is hard on a car, which is not something you want to do to a new car.

Drive stick is like loving a woman...or riding a bicycle. Yeah a bicycle is something I can explain easier on teh internets. It's all about timing, balance, and finesse and you'll never forget how to do it.

Totally talking about a bicycle BTW .
Lol. You might as well say.. PUN INTENDED! Was a fun read. :P

Also, depending on the person, and where they live/the situation might judge what is best suited for them (Ie. Heavy Heavy Traffic areas, crappy drivers, car robberies *referring to the article about the guys trying to steal the car and fail.).
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Damn I want to have that fun manual transmission but at the same time, I just want to cruise and not have to worry about it. Thanks for the help btw.
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