Help Coilover selection

[DaveH]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

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That's still considerably more track time than most cars will ever see.

Yes, there are absolutely better options than Ohlins R&T. What are you realistically willing to spend? Anything up to around ~6k has good gains per dollar, with returns starting to diminish after that.

Some more details, I haven't had time go to track once this year and it doesn't look like that's changing. The roads where I live are complete garbage, pot holes everywhere. I am willing to sacrifice track performance for street comfort, I go to track for fun so I really don't care if this coilover will save 2 seconds off my lap. I have no interest in those things.

My maximum is 4000 dollars.

Keep in mind, coilovers must be an upgrade from stock suspension, if is stiff and rides uncomfortably, I don't consider that to be an upgrade from stock suspension, even if it is better at the track.

Basically just looking for the optimal balance but with balanced skewed towards street vs track.

Back ground information on car:
Vortech Supercharger Kit
Perrin Oil Cooler
Volk Racing TE37SL 18x9
Titanium Exhaust
AP Racing Sprint Front BBK
Cheap shit Chinese coilovers LOL
Lower control arms (rear)
Rear Diff Brace
Lithium Battery

I already spent a lot of money on the and I made the mistake of cheapening out and getting some cheap Chinese coilovers which I don't like very much.
-8kg/mm springs front and rear and monotube dampers. Basically I have them on the softest setting and I don't really like that ride all that much. Jumps over large bumps and the springs are already starting to grind.

So my conclusion is I need something good but there are so many options. The key thing is I need something that will tie all these performance enhancements together and make it a complete "car". Like I said I don't mind spending money but if it just makes the ride harsh and unpleasant then I am just throwing money down the toilet.

[tahdizzle]

No reviews on the HKS hypermax IV SP coilovers?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by DaveH

Some more details, I haven't had time go to track once this year and it doesn't look like that's changing. The roads where I live are complete garbage, pot holes everywhere. I am willing to sacrifice track performance for street comfort, I go to track for fun so I really don't care if this coilover will save 2 seconds off my lap. I have no interest in those things.

My maximum is 4000 dollars.

Keep in mind, coilovers must be an upgrade from stock suspension, if is stiff and rides uncomfortably, I don't consider that to be an upgrade from stock suspension, even if it is better at the track.

Basically just looking for the optimal balance but with balanced skewed towards street vs track.

Back ground information on car:
Vortech Supercharger Kit
Perrin Oil Cooler
Volk Racing TE37SL 18x9
Titanium Exhaust
AP Racing Sprint Front BBK
Cheap shit Chinese coilovers LOL
Lower control arms (rear)
Rear Diff Brace
Lithium Battery

I already spent a lot of money on the and I made the mistake of cheapening out and getting some cheap Chinese coilovers which I don't like very much.
-8kg/mm springs front and rear and monotube dampers. Basically I have them on the softest setting and I don't really like that ride all that much. Jumps over large bumps and the springs are already starting to grind.

So my conclusion is I need something good but there are so many options. The key thing is I need something that will tie all these performance enhancements together and make it a complete "car". Like I said I don't mind spending money but if it just makes the ride harsh and unpleasant then I am just throwing money down the toilet.

How much lower than stock do you want the car? 1 inch? 1.5 inches? more?

- Andy

[DaveH]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

How much lower than stock do you want the car? 1 inch? 1.5 inches? more?

- Andy

1 Inch is about all I need, I still daily drive this LOL.

[gramicci101]

I still vote RCE Tarmac II or KW V3, as a more street-friendly suspension that is still very capable on the track.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by DaveH

1 Inch is about all I need, I still daily drive this LOL.

Gotcha, reason I ask is that the Ohlins don't go very low but 1 inch is good. If it were me in your position that would be my top choice. One of the best all around coilovers IMO...."road and track" as their name says. Yes there are faster set-ups out there but they have other compromises.

- Andy

[DaveH]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Gotcha, reason I ask is that the Ohlins don't go very low but 1 inch is good. If it were me in your position that would be my top choice. One of the best all around coilovers IMO...."road and track" as their name says. Yes there are faster set-ups out there but they have other compromises.

- Andy

Sent you a PM, want to ask you some more details.

[cdrazic93]

For sub 4k, AST 4150's like @Jive Turkey said, or MCS 2 ways.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by DaveH

Some more details, I haven't had time go to track once this year and it doesn't look like that's changing. The roads where I live are complete garbage, pot holes everywhere. I am willing to sacrifice track performance for street comfort, I go to track for fun so I really don't care if this coilover will save 2 seconds off my lap. I have no interest in those things.

My maximum is 4000 dollars.

Keep in mind, coilovers must be an upgrade from stock suspension, if is stiff and rides uncomfortably, I don't consider that to be an upgrade from stock suspension, even if it is better at the track.

Basically just looking for the optimal balance but with balanced skewed towards street vs track.

Back ground information on car:
Vortech Supercharger Kit
Perrin Oil Cooler
Volk Racing TE37SL 18x9
Titanium Exhaust
AP Racing Sprint Front BBK
Cheap shit Chinese coilovers LOL
Lower control arms (rear)
Rear Diff Brace
Lithium Battery

I already spent a lot of money on the and I made the mistake of cheapening out and getting some cheap Chinese coilovers which I don't like very much.
-8kg/mm springs front and rear and monotube dampers. Basically I have them on the softest setting and I don't really like that ride all that much. Jumps over large bumps and the springs are already starting to grind.

So my conclusion is I need something good but there are so many options. The key thing is I need something that will tie all these performance enhancements together and make it a complete "car". Like I said I don't mind spending money but if it just makes the ride harsh and unpleasant then I am just throwing money down the toilet.

Do you have camber plates that can be re-used?

[DaveH]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Do you have camber plates that can be re-used?

If you mean the OEM ones? I have those on my oem struts and I have camber plates that came with my Chinese suspension.

[Jive Turkey]

honestly from what you say you need KW seems to fit the bill really well or the RCE setup (which is more car specific)

i LOVE my AST's but sometimes they get annoying. the Kw's were more plush, but obviously not as good when you push the car.

i don't know how the ohlin's ride, but if they are like the AST i would say ON THE STREET the v3's would be better. in every other category i would say get ohlins or ASt's or etc for sure. but since street comfort is what you're really looking for i think RCE/v3 is what you should be looking at and spend the rest of the budget on top hats and a proper corner balance...people forget that good alignments/work isn't cheap.

as for top hats, doesn't sound like you need them and can reuse your OEM stuff. KW's are slotted so you can gain camber in the front that way. depending how low you go with your LCA you might need toe arms.

you could always go vorshlag, raceceng, hvt etc. but you don't NEED them is what i'm saying.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by D K

I dont see how anyone can mention Öhlins and KW in the same sentance

why not? i feel the way you spelled sentence is a little discrediting right off the bat but i want to hear you out.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by fatoni

why not? i feel the way you spelled sentence is a little discrediting right off the bat but i want to hear you out.

But he got the umlaut right in Ohlins though, so that's something.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

But he got the umlaut right in Ohlins though, so that's something.

this exact thought honestly crossed my mind. its hard to criticize since i bant be bothered to use capitals when i type.