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Old 07-23-2019, 08:02 PM   #1
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Best value 17x9 wheels or 17x9.5?

I'm about to order my 2nd set of 949 racing wheels for autoX. Rpf1's even with 35mm offset don't fit stoptech big brake kit. Are there any other cheap but quality 17x9 or 17x9.5 wheels I should be looking at? Don't want to spend much over a grand rather have it go towards tires.

Also debating whether to put RE71R's or Hoosier A7 on the new wheels. I'll be more competitive in the 200 TW class but the guys on 40 TW tires look like they are having a blast! Those who've run both how much life should I expect out of each?

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Old 07-23-2019, 08:59 PM   #2
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They're actually doing on group buy right now for 86 fitment wheels.

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Yesss Apex is what you're looking for. Super light, strong, and clears brakes. They are +42 offset if I'm not mistaken. They're right at a grand I believe, but you can probably find them cheaper in the group buy. Also, there are a few in the classifieds here.
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I think it's going to be tough to beat the value prop of the 949 6ul, to be honest.
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I'd gamble 2/3 to 3/4 the life of the re71r if you slap A7s on, depending on the alignment and surface. Reports of 100 runs aren't uncommon on A7s on cars that have decent alignment and don't punish tires. We started hitting cords on a FWD hatch that doesn't have enough camber and too much power to the fronts at around 60-ish runs (300 ft-lbs through 225s is an unbalanced equation) as long as your alignment doesn't suck you should be able to beat that, we were getting 130 runs on re71r on that car and a bit more on my FRS.

Hard to beat 6UL and RPF1, Apex has a good rep but for the price range most of your choices will be heavier and potentially no more durable than rpf1s
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I'd gamble 2/3 to 3/4 the life of the re71r if you slap A7s on, depending on the alignment and surface. Reports of 100 runs aren't uncommon on A7s on cars that have decent alignment and don't punish tires. We started hitting cords on a FWD hatch that doesn't have enough camber and too much power to the fronts at around 60-ish runs (300 ft-lbs through 225s is an unbalanced equation) as long as your alignment doesn't suck you should be able to beat that, we were getting 130 runs on re71r on that car and a bit more on my FRS.

Hard to beat 6UL and RPF1, Apex has a good rep but for the price range most of your choices will be heavier and potentially no more durable than rpf1s
Thanks for your input. Almost everyone at my local autoX on A7's swaps them at home and drives to and from the events. How much do you think that would effect the life? For me it's a 70 mile round trip and I already have to be there early so being able swap at home is convenient.

How would you describe the handling difference between the two? And how much faster are the A7's on a 1 min course?
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17x9.5 isn't so common. TE37 Saga come in that size though. Bit more than $1k though.
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What class do you run/want to run?
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Mach V Awesome wheels are a good option as well.
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I would love a flowformed 17x9.5 or 17x10 wheel. Sadly, I dont think anything aside from TE37 comes in that size, and those are more than I'd pay for a whole set, for a single wheel...
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Does the 17x9 fit the performance package brakes on the BRZ's?
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Does the 17x9 fit the performance package brakes on the BRZ's?
Yes it does. I have a set on my Series Yellow BRZ.

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Too bad you're on the opposite coast. LOL


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What class do you run/want to run?
My local Porsche and corvette club donít really do the classes the same as most autoXís. They have 3 classes that are purely based on the treadwear of your tires. They have a 300tw class, a 200tw class and an under 200tw class.

I was trying to compete against the guys on Hoosiers with my track tires 100tw NT01ís but have realized the NT01ís are actually slower for autoX than some of the 200tw tires like the re71rís.

The open A class is dominated by a guy in a Lotus 7 with an S2K drivetrain and a 1st gen 911 that weighs 1800lbs and has almost 300 HP. The 911 looks so dialed in and has a pair of very fast drivers so I doubt anyone will beat them.

The other 2 classes competition would be of course Caymans, focus rs and golf r. Unfortunately thereís not many 86ís coming out.
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