Do you ever drive with rear seats down for more exhaust sound?

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Help weed out the poor drivers in a hurry. If there had been internet there would have been very few "is this totaled" accident posts.

I wonder if percentage wise, the amount of accidents were similar to today based on how many people owned vehicles then, and now.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

I wonder if percentage wise, the amount of accidents were similar to today based on how many people owned vehicles then, and now.

Not even close.

[bkharmony]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not even close.

I'm interested to see accidents (not road deaths) per year. I truly feel our cushy, safe modern vehicles have given people the sense that paying attention is optional, resulting in more accidents.

[RToyo86]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Anybody that thinks these cars are noisy should try to get a ride in a base model sixties Dart or something similar. Zero carpeting or insulation (just some plastic mats), steel door panels, steel dash, basic weather-stripping, cloth headliner and so on. Close the door and the resulting clang would echo for minutes.

To be fair sixties American Cars more closely resemble the Flintstones than they do modern cars made today.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not even close.

Do you mean to imply that the near 30k deaths would indicate less accidents?

I remember learning about the whole seat belt thing, where tons of deaths were being caused because of the lack of and/or the design(over waist only), oh and can't forget the non-crumple hoods when in the event of an accident would launch itself into the cabin, killing basically everyone.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by bkharmony

I'm interested to see accidents (not road deaths) per year. I truly feel our cushy, safe modern vehicles have given people the sense that paying attention is optional, resulting in more accidents.

This^

Deaths are a different topic all together.

[dinfern22]

Originally Posted by Somerandom18

Not anymore.. shits loud enough as is haha. But uses to and it was awesome.

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what exhaust do you have now that's "loud enough"?

[dinfern22]

Originally Posted by jtice

Ha, yep, been doing that a good bit. I also plugged the "sound tube" so now I hear exhaust more than odd engine noise.
Might not in a few days though, since I have a Nameless axle back on the way.

One of my few complaints about the BRZ is the road noise. You hear the tires and wind way more than the engine or exhaust.
I think I will eventually be putting sound deadening allllll over the car, at the expense of a few added lbs.

Do certain tires create more road noise than others?
I heard the Michelin PSS create more road noise.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Do you mean to imply that the near 30k deaths would indicate less accidents?

I remember learning about the whole seat belt thing, where tons of deaths were being caused because of the lack of and/or the design(over waist only), oh and can't forget the non-crumple hoods when in the event of an accident would launch itself into the cabin, killing basically everyone.

No I was stating that the cars back then were indeed death traps.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by bkharmony

I'm interested to see accidents (not road deaths) per year. I truly feel our cushy, safe modern vehicles have given people the sense that paying attention is optional, resulting in more accidents.

I doubt those numbers exist. Overall accident stats are primarily compiled by the insurance companies and mandatory insurance wasn't around back then.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

No I was stating that the cars back then were indeed death traps.

I didn't realize it was that bad though god damn. Thank god my family made it through such dark times.

[86 South Africa]

My exhaust is so loud & vibrates so much that the back left indicator wire has rattled a touch loose. Need to fix the wiring now.
So no need to move my seats at all Lol.

[extrashaky]

I recall from my econ classes in college (and I think it ended up in the first Freakonomics book as well) that although driver and passenger fatalities have decreased as vehicle safety measures have improved, overall accident rates have either stayed flat or increased. In particular, economists love to quote a guy named Tullock who studied seat belt laws and found that although the percentage of accidents resulting in fatalities of the driver or passengers went down, the occurrence of accidents went up because people felt safer and would drive faster and more recklessly. It still would have been a positive gain, except that there was also a corresponding rise in fatalities among pedestrians and bicyclists, so net fatalities remained about the same.

Tullock said that if you wanted safer drivers, the way to do it would be to put a steel spike in the center of the steering wheel. Then everyone would slow down, drive extra carefully and keep a sharper eye out for other drivers.

[Overdrive]

Originally Posted by dinfern22

Any of you guys ever do this or is it just me?

Not just you, but I personally don't do it intentionally. My seats are down when I need the room, otherwise I get enough road and wind noise in the cabin as-is, and they stay up.