Alignment sheet explanation. Anyone?

[86wtywly]

Originally Posted by Th3rdSun

Firestone does lifetime alignments. Pay once,and go back and get it aligned for free for as long as you own the car.

Toe angel kills tires faster than anything. You really don't want any toe angle at all for a daily driver.

that means zero toe all around? will that fix my floaty steering issue?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Agreed, your toe needs fixing.

- Andrew

[swarb]

Originally Posted by 86wtywly

that means zero toe all around? will that fix my floaty steering issue?

The issue is YOU. Or too much air pressure in the tires, around 32psi should be good.
Your alignment is fine. Getting a performance alignment won't solve anything as it is ok as is, and any alignment change won't make it feel any less "light feeling" other than adding negative camber(install camber bolts). But that does not explain why the 2014 felt better in your hands.

Have you been lifting weights since the last time you drove the 2014 two years ago?

Those of you trying to help, refer to this thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110380
Op wants to fix "light feeling" steering when compared to a 2014 model he drove TWO YEARS AGO.
He tests drives another 2016 and it felt the same.
He was driving a evo x with heavier steering since the last time he drove a frs TWO YEARS AGO.

[86wtywly]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Agreed, your toe needs fixing.

- Andrew

what is your recommended setup for a stock car?

[swarb]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Right off the bat, your toe is fucked up, front and rear. Technically they all look to be within OEM spec, but OEM spec is a range that leaves a bit of variance, not a number. Go to a performance alignment shop and get it aligned to a number. Shoot for 0 toe in the front and slight toe-in in the rear. I'm guessing the slight toe out on the front and a lot of toe out on the rear is what's giving you the floaty feeling, but others will be able to say more than I can.

I tagged RCE; hopefully they come and offer their expertise.

Positive toe is actually toe-in.
He never mentioned floaty feeing. Only light feeling steering.

Originally Posted by 86wtywly

what is your recommended setup for a stock car?

Like mentioned by gramicci101, Zero toe in front and slight toe-in in the rear. This will actually make your steering lighter(I doubt you'll notice) as the toe-in from before, the tires were pushing towards the center of the car, making steering slower.

Are you seriously basing your comparison to a car you drove TWO YEARS AGO? Do you remember what you had for lunch that day?

[86wtywly]

Originally Posted by swarb

Positive toe is actually toe-in.
He never mentioned floaty feeing. Only light feeling steering.


Like mentioned by gramicci101, Zero toe in front and slight toe-in in the rear. This will actually make your steering lighter(I doubt you'll notice) as the toe-in from before, the tires were pushing towards the center of the car, making steering slower.

Are you seriously basing your comparison to a car you drove TWO YEARS AGO? Do you remember what you had for lunch that day?

yea i did, i had popcorn for lunch on that day.
So you are saying that alignment setup will have no effect on the steering feel whatsoever correct?

[swarb]

Originally Posted by 86wtywly

yea i did, i had popcorn for lunch on that day.
So you are saying that alignment setup will have no effect on the steering feel whatsoever correct?

Did you read what you quoted?
Did you read my other post?
Apparently not.

[RichardsFRS]

A tire shop thinks that toe align is ok? I'd go to another shop because its way way out of alignment

[Cole]

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

A tire shop thinks that toe align is ok? I'd go to another shop because its way way out of alignment

False. It's within OEM spec. It's not out of alignment. Just not ideal

[DirtDrift]

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers

Get it aligned properly for peace of mind. Then you'll know what you have to live with.

^ This.

Although your alignment is within specification the "Total Toe" numbers you're showing us don't give enough information. I'd be more interested in individual toe from side to side, in relation to front and rear.

I'm a very picky person and would align my car closest to spec as possible. Most cars won't feel much different when they're out that slightly, but the twins are very sensitive vehicles.

If you have a "light" steering feel I'd be more inclined to look at the tire inflation and tire wear. There's just too many things that come into play with a light steering feel, other than the alignment which is within spec.