2013 FRS replacement engine - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

knucklehead · 03-18-2020, 01:07 AM

Need a replacement engine as mine just spun a bearing.

What I know is that the BRZ and FRS are exactly the same engine and will directly bolt in to either cars. Can some one confirm this?

My car is a 2013 FRS. I am trying to find a newer model engine, a 2015 or 2016. What I couldnt get info is if those years are direct replacement to my car. Would anyone know? I know that 2017 and up, one would need to do swap over alot of components so I am staying away from those.

knucklehead · 03-18-2020, 03:36 PM

I am considering doing the engine swap myself and been watching a lot of videos of people who has pulled the engine. I would assume that the AC line does not have to be disconnected (which I prefer). I am just not sure of this since I think I was only able to watch 1 video but it involved min. of 3 guys (2 at the motor and 1 holding on to the compressor) where the AC lines can easily be seen as being still connected. As for the other videos, there it wasn't clear weather they disconnected them and only that the copressor was on the side. An obviously, there are videos who straight up disconnects the lines. Is it really difficult to do by oneself without disconnecting them?

Opie · 03-18-2020, 04:02 PM

Very difficult to do without removing the A/C lines but could possibly be done. I've never tried it...

A 2016 engine will work, plug & play. No sensor swapping needed as long as you are using the 2016 engine harness in the 2013. You would only need to swap sensors if you were still using the 2013 engine harness.

knucklehead · 03-18-2020, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opie

Very difficult to do without removing the A/C lines but could possibly be done. I've never tried it...

A 2016 engine will work, plug & play. No sensor swapping needed as long as you are using the 2016 engine harness in the 2013. You would only need to swap sensors if you were still using the 2013 engine harness.

How about a 2015 engine?

Opie · 03-19-2020, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by knucklehead

How about a 2015 engine?

If you are using a complete engine, 2013-2016 will work as a drop in replacement. Only differences are between AT and MT versions.

knucklehead · 03-19-2020, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opie

If you are using a complete engine, 2013-2016 will work as a drop in replacement. Only differences are between AT and MT versions.

Thanks Opie!

knucklehead · 04-02-2020, 05:51 PM

trying to get a 2015-2016 is proving to be difficult to find that is fairly priced. I am trying to avoid the 2013 model due to the valve spring issue/recall. Is the 2014 engine know for certain issues like the valve spring recall on the 2013?

knucklehead · 04-07-2020, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklehead

trying to get a 2015-2016 is proving to be difficult to find that is fairly priced. I am trying to avoid the 2013 model due to the valve spring issue/recall. Is the 2014 engine know for certain issues like the valve spring recall on the 2013?

Anyone know?

DarkPira7e · 04-07-2020, 10:13 PM

Sometime in 2014 they revised the coilpacks and the associated harness (which would be my prime reason for not getting a 2013 engine). Other than that I don't know. 2013 is the only year that really seems to have any large issues

knucklehead · 04-08-2020, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Sometime in 2014 they revised the coilpacks and the associated harness (which would be my prime reason for not getting a 2013 engine). Other than that I don't know. 2013 is the only year that really seems to have any large issues

Thanks for the input Darkpira7e. I thought that the coilpacks and harness were updated on the 2015 and 2016. So some 2014s got them? how can I check/verify this on a used engine?

DarkPira7e · 04-08-2020, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklehead

Thanks for the input Darkpira7e. I thought that the coilpacks and harness were updated on the 2015 and 2016. So some 2014s got them? how can I check/verify this on a used engine?

I guess my memory failed me. New coilpacks were 2015+, sorry!

knucklehead · 04-08-2020, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I guess my memory failed me. New coilpacks were 2015+, sorry!

Not a problem. Thanks Darkpira7e!

knucklehead · 04-08-2020, 12:14 PM

Is there a marking on the engine that would indicate the year model that it is coming from? If there aren't any, how is one able to tell if it is a 2015/2016 engine?

Decimus · 04-09-2020, 03:35 PM

If you ask the seller for the VIN, you can easily identify it that way.

03-18-2020, 01:07 AM	#1
knucklehead Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Drives: FRS Location: Canada Posts: 55 Thanks: 19 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2013 FRS replacement engine Need a replacement engine as mine just spun a bearing. What I know is that the BRZ and FRS are exactly the same engine and will directly bolt in to either cars. Can some one confirm this? My car is a 2013 FRS. I am trying to find a newer model engine, a 2015 or 2016. What I couldnt get info is if those years are direct replacement to my car. Would anyone know? I know that 2017 and up, one would need to do swap over alot of components so I am staying away from those.

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03-18-2020, 03:36 PM	#2
knucklehead Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Drives: FRS Location: Canada Posts: 55 Thanks: 19 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am considering doing the engine swap myself and been watching a lot of videos of people who has pulled the engine. I would assume that the AC line does not have to be disconnected (which I prefer). I am just not sure of this since I think I was only able to watch 1 video but it involved min. of 3 guys (2 at the motor and 1 holding on to the compressor) where the AC lines can easily be seen as being still connected. As for the other videos, there it wasn't clear weather they disconnected them and only that the copressor was on the side. An obviously, there are videos who straight up disconnects the lines. Is it really difficult to do by oneself without disconnecting them?

04-02-2020, 05:51 PM	#7
knucklehead Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Drives: FRS Location: Canada Posts: 55 Thanks: 19 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	trying to get a 2015-2016 is proving to be difficult to find that is fairly priced. I am trying to avoid the 2013 model due to the valve spring issue/recall. Is the 2014 engine know for certain issues like the valve spring recall on the 2013?

04-07-2020, 10:13 PM	#9
DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 3,934 Thanks: 3,200 Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sometime in 2014 they revised the coilpacks and the associated harness (which would be my prime reason for not getting a 2013 engine). Other than that I don't know. 2013 is the only year that really seems to have any large issues

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knucklehead Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Drives: FRS Location: Canada Posts: 55 Thanks: 19 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is there a marking on the engine that would indicate the year model that it is coming from? If there aren't any, how is one able to tell if it is a 2015/2016 engine?

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Decimus BAE Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: Asphalt FRS Location: SGV Posts: 587 Thanks: 152 Thanked 97 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	If you ask the seller for the VIN, you can easily identify it that way.

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