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Old 02-10-2022, 06:56 PM   #2549
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I have been informed by my sister that my uncle and aunt weren't vaccinated. My uncle was 89. Apparently none of my cousins are either. I am utterly shocked. I am afraid to call and talk with them, knowing what I was told. My cousin even commented too bad Ivermectin wasn't available. I want to puke in my mouth.
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I have been informed by my sister that my uncle and aunt weren't vaccinated. My uncle was 89. Apparently none of my cousins are either. I am utterly shocked. I am afraid to call and talk with them, knowing what I was told. My cousin even commented too bad Ivermectin wasn't available. I want to puke in my mouth.
They're still people. Dont be a ninny
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They're still people. Dont be a ninny
I couldn't handle it if they had told me when I spoke with them previously. Believing the outcome wouldn't have been better if vaccinated. These are intelligent people. I just can't believe my aunt and uncle weren't vaccinated. Especially since my aunt's brother, my dad caught Covid and died just over a year ago. I hope my sister misunderstood and I might never know, it's going to be awkward with them going forward. Last I saw my uncle at my Dad's funeral he was helping my aunt get over a curb with her walker. He had his marbles completely.
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@wbradley" "there were lots of crazy right wingers and extremists that latched on, inciting violence and using expletives on their banners toward our PM."

Fake news. Normal people have been appalled by JT for years by his policy. You guys were marching straight towards new world order globalism, but the straw the broke the camels back were the measures put in by that theater-actor you call a prime minister killing trucker's economy. Two weeks of hotel lockdown per border trip, on their own dime. That's retarded and shortsighted of them to not think there wouldn't be backlash by the most powerful, motivated movers of their economy.
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I couldn't handle it if they had told me when I spoke with them previously. Believing the outcome wouldn't have been better if vaccinated. These are intelligent people. I just can't believe my aunt and uncle weren't vaccinated. Especially since my aunt's brother, my dad caught Covid and died just over a year ago. I hope my sister misunderstood and I might never know, it's going to be awkward with them going forward. Last I saw my uncle at my Dad's funeral he was helping my aunt get over a curb with her walker. He had his marbles completely.
Lantana has a point. They are people and will make their own decisions. If they choose to not get vaccinated, that's on them. You can't beat yourself up or be overly upset. I've had several family members get sick from COVID. Some shook it off and learned nothing of it. Another was literally on his death bed and had an awakening. People will process things in different ways.
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I understand the idea behind serious complications of the virus. You get pneumonia and can't breathe, some die of low oxygenation. Some get long term injury resulting. Others, the maybe 98% live on like nothing happened, maybe had a fever or headache for a weekend or had a long cold. 99?% of the rest of us end up get over it.

Meanwhile you have a MRNA injection that is still in experimental trials. What's the most important thing to focus on with these? The lipid soluble layer that can pass barriers to go "where it's needed". Problem is they have trouble getting it to where they want it to go, and so must experiment with varying the size of the lipid molecules to pass into the right tissue barrier. Wrong tissue, you get dead heart tissue, or fail to form a placenta in pregnancy, or just blood clots for some reason. Maybe people get affected down the line with fibromyalgia or some brain disease from your neuron's myelin sheath being attacked by your own immune system.

Imagine for a second, they were experimenting with these lipid-soluble-coated payloads and studying distribution of injury in millions of people? How many end up with myocarditis, aka dead heart tissue? How many end up with blood clots within first two weeks? How many miscarriages or birth defects? All important information I'm sure they gathered.

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I have been informed by my sister that my uncle and aunt weren't vaccinated. My uncle was 89. Apparently none of my cousins are either. I am utterly shocked. I am afraid to call and talk with them, knowing what I was told. My cousin even commented too bad Ivermectin wasn't available. I want to puke in my mouth.
we all make our own decisions. my brothers family isn't vaccinated. we've made the points, they've got their reasons. he's still my brother. it just means i get to point and laugh when it doesn't work out so well for him in the future.

and chanting "i told you so" isn't out of the question either. doesn't mean i don't care. but you can't make everyone else do what you want all the time. unless you've got boobs.
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Lantana has a point. They are people and will make their own decisions. If they choose to not get vaccinated, that's on them. You can't beat yourself up or be overly upset. I've had several family members get sick from COVID. Some shook it off and learned nothing of it. Another was literally on his death bed and had an awakening. People will process things in different ways.
I think he meant that more along the lines of they are people so treat them like people. There is a huge rift in my family now over all this stemming from my dad and his oldest sister and they haven't spoken in almost two years. We haven't had any type of family get together in that time either. My aunt lives about 150 yards from my closest friends house. If I see they are home I stop by. They are people first, their ideologies that made them chose not to be vaccinated is a small part of who they are.
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I have an aunt who is a nurse and she almost "couldn't even" when I told her I hadn't had the vaccine (and a couple others in our family also).

Thing is I know what her information sources are, that is insurance-and-pharmacy aligned groups that hire RN's tell her, and what the CNN tells her. Which is exactly what you think. Your normal news sources aren't doing real reporting, and a lot of it seems fake.

What I know is that I consider myself well informed on the topics of:

-Do the vaccines work, and how long are they effective? They are short lived and require a booster every few months.

-Truthful analysis on infection and immunization. Can a vaccinated person still transmit covid or still catch the virus? Yes.

So did they lie to us when saying the vaccine was "extremely effective" and could prevent the virus from being transmitted. mm. Yes.

-Which EU-partnership countries are working in lockstep to reduce the rights of ordinary citizens? Canada, U.K., Germany, Australia. And which countries looked sideways at the issue? Sweden, Japan, Hungary. Where are the outstanding stats on those countries?

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Canada per 1 million people:
-Cases 83,126
-Deaths 924

Sweden per 1 million people:
-Cases 229,164
-Deaths 1,580

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@Spuds reminder the stats weren't ever accurate to the point where people in vehicle accident deaths were counted as covid deaths.

You have different sampling. I can't imagine Swedes being as pedantic as Canadians during this, like doing PCR tests every day to go to work.

Also reminder the CDC listed vaccinated deaths as unvaccinated deaths if they die within 14 days of the vaccine. The stats are completely fucked!!
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@Spuds reminder the stats weren't ever accurate to the point where people in vehicle accident deaths were counted as covid deaths.

You have different sampling. I can't imagine Swedes being as pedantic as Canadians during this, like doing PCR tests every day to go to work.
In that case, the Swedish numbers would all be understated relative to Canada's.
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@Spuds persnaps, I'd go back on that. But, there's the idea that the stats are indeed fudged, being plenty of evidence given the labeling of covid (common cold) deaths with comorbidities. Whether by forgery and lies or being frustratingly unintelligible and difficult to argue, due to policy.

Or maybe the "science has changed" and you see them doing a complete 180 now that the damage has done. Indeed will there be any correction to these number stats, or will they just keep tallying numbers irregardless?


(I don't watch Fox News, just wanted a picture of Dr. Wen)

On my local town's subreddit there are people still shaking making posts about the high schools not having mask mandates. It takes time for the narrative to catch up doesn't it?
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