More confirmation from Toyota on next gen 86

[Yoshoobaroo]

I know this isn't new info, but it's nice to hear it from an official source (Toyota Europe head of marketing).

Apparently the Subaru-Toyota thing lives on. Toyota's European marketing boss confirms the demand is there and that Subaru is the joint venture partner for the project:

https://jalopnik.com/the-next-toyota...ent-1833489643

I'm in for an NA FA24 with port/direct injection on a tweaked (lighter/stiffer) ZN6/ZC6 chassis. A mild hybrid setup like the CRZ but with a supercapacitor instead of batteries like mazda's setup would be neat too. Oh and I'd love a hatch this time!

[HKz]

`torque dip 2.0 incoming`

[HuntingtonFRS]

Originally Posted by HKz

torque dip 2.0 incoming

This forum and its “torque dip” complaints. It’s ridiculous. You all should drive a rotary for a year.

The dip really is nothing to complain about and easily fixed.


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[Sasquachulator]

A little less "confirmation" and a little bit more "all signs point to yes" type statement.

TCoat gonna have a field day with this.

Im not a huge fan of the boxer motor, so I'd like to see something a bit more revvy (see if they can get it to or close to 8000 RPM redline :p) and a bit more smooth.

Yes and eliminate torque dip, even though I feel like that issue is exaggerated a bit (mainly from the "I've never driven a slow car before" crowd)

[HKz]

Originally Posted by HuntingtonFRS

This forum and its “torque dip” complaints. It’s ridiculous. You all should drive a rotary for a year.

The dip really is nothing to complain about and easily fixed.


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[mazeroni]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

A little less "confirmation" and a little bit more "all signs point to yes" type statement.

TCoat gonna have a field day with this.

Im not a huge fan of the boxer motor, so I'd like to see something a bit more revvy (see if they can get it to or close to 8000 RPM redline :p) and a bit more smooth.

Yes and eliminate torque dip, even though I feel like that issue is exaggerated a bit (mainly from the "I've never driven a slow car before" crowd)

Yep. I received PMs with the UK tabloid release. Notice the lack of any form of info we didn't already know months ago? Slow news day filler.


So the "interview" went like this:
Journalist (loosest form of the term) - Is Toyota happy with the 86?
Harrison - It has been a successful ‘halo’ product for us.
Journalist - Will the Supra replace it?
Harrison - Supra is not to replace that car. They are for different audiences and are different products. We see a situation where they will sit alongside each other
Journalist - The 86 will have a next generation then right?
Harrison - That is a safe assumption
Journalist - What about declining sales?
Harrison - Its role is not one particularly about volume globally. It’s about adding excitement to the brand and emotional appeal.
Journalist - What about...
Harrison - That is enough now get out of the washroom and let me shit in peace.
Journalist - Fine I have enough to write a story with zero substance that will still get clicks.




You are not going to see anything with an 8K rev limit nor huge HP. It just isn't going to happen. If you take anything out of that load of bunk it should be that not much will change at all. They will not push it into Supra performance territory.

[Docdoc]

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[Docdoc]

To be honest, I'm glad they are make a version 2.0. I'm quite sure I won't move from the current platform as my wife has demanded she gets to pick the next new car. However, I may be able to start a bit of a collection a get the second year model. I just really enjoy the story, awards and let face it the hard work each engineer puts into the cars to ensure that they are fun and affordable. Any car that meets those two points are awesome in my book. Although I'm first and foremost a "driver" and should not be concerned about the interior. I just wish they would call me up one day and say hey does this look "ok"? My reply of course would be lets just not try and make plastic look like real carbon fiber ok?

Docdoc

[Jyn]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You are not going to see anything with an 8K rev limit nor huge HP. It just isn't going to happen. If you take anything out of that load of bunk it should be that not much will change at all. They will not push it into Supra performance territory.

Well of course not. FA24s don't do that.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jyn

Well of course not. FA24s don't do that.

Oh have they started making a NA FA24?

[Docdoc]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh have they started making a NA FA24?

I have only seen the turbo charged version, but they may throw that into a updated GT86 platform with updated styling.

Docdoc

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh have they started making a NA FA24?

I'm willing to bet Subaru has at least one BRZ running around with an NA FA24 in it. It seems like the easiest path forward. Increase the displacement, grab some (again, SOME, Not 100hp) power up top, and leave the torque dip be. If we need the torque dip to have the NA motor pass emissions then so be it. The only other thing the dip ever did was get some keyboards lukewarm, it never cost them any meaningful sales.

Shit if it were Honda, they'd call the torque dip Vtec signature behavior and all the whiney boys would STFU and learn how to drive in the powerband.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh have they started making a NA FA24?

The answer:

We are committed to the continued development and improvements of the FA24 DIT found in the 2019 Subaru Ascent.