All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[mav1178]

oh boy, the fun police showed up...

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by mav1178

... you sure you want to imagine how awesome it will be?

because Toyota did produce a GR 86...

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122663

This one is better: Toyota 86 GRMN

They also made a Yaris GRMN based on the previous generation Yaris.....so the new Yaris GR tells you what they could do with an actual new platform.

[Dake]

Originally Posted by JesseG

I’m very impressed with the GR Yaris, and I really hope it’s a sign of things to come from Toyota. I’m worried that North America won’t get cars like this though. Imagine how awesome a GR 86 could be. Give the car to a division of the company that can take it to the next level.

Sadly, we already know the GR Yaris isn't coming to the US. We're getting a GR Corolla instead.

[JesseG]

I don’t know of any GR 86 that was sold here. And I wasn’t referring to what Toyota is calling the 2nd gen 86. Maybe it will have a similar approach as the GR Yaris and have a bunch of upgrades/unique parts. Does anyone really think that will happen? I don’t care what the hell they call it if it’s an actual attempt at making the car better. I was probably a little too harsh about the 86 TRD. It does have some nice performance upgrades, and some purely cosmetic stuff. I just know that Toyota is capable of so much more, if they cared enough.


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[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Dake

Sadly, we already know the GR Yaris isn't coming to the US. We're getting a GR Corolla instead.

My gut tells me they are going to also put the GR label on the 86, without any real upgrades over the standard car. The GR Yaris is very different than the base platform. I don’t know as much about the GR Corolla. It’s a really good starting point that could be a very capable performer. It would be nice to see a Corolla that could compete with at least the Civic Si. Is that too much to ask? I know a Civic Type R competitor is out of the question.


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[Red-86]

I think the standard car will be called the GR 86, just as the standard Supra is a GR Supra. The GR Yaris being a hipo special is a bit different, as there is a standard Yaris too. With the 86 and Supra, they market the whole range as being ‘GR’ now.

If they do a special souped up version of the new GR 86 it may be a ‘GRMN’ but I would not expect any more power. Probably be another ‘handling’ upgrade so suspension, brakes and tyres.

[ToySub1946]

Did someone say THREE CYLINDERS. Don't look whilst I look away and chuckle.


Does it have a balance shaft ? Does it have an unlimited miles/years warranty ?

[staples323]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Did someone say THREE CYLINDERS. Don't look whilst I look away and chuckle.


Does it have a balance shaft ? Does it have an unlimited miles/years warranty ?

3 cylinder engines have been around for awhile. Much more prevalent in motorcycles but becoming a lot more common in cars these days

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

I’m not arguing that they weren’t shit. The lights weren’t allowed. The end.

And once upon a time cars were not allowed in cities, the speed limit was 5MPH and you had to have a person with a flag and whistle walk in front of your car.
To say they were banned in today's context is not accurate.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Here.
https://mashable.com/2015/07/20/ford-smart-headlights/

USA

Originally Posted by Tokay444

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...eadlight-tech/

Not even talking about swivel lights. Also USA

Originally Posted by Tokay444

https://blog.dupontregistry.com/merc...al-in-the-usa/

Again totally different subject and YEP USA


Canada does not have and to the best of my knowledge never had these rules. We have had auto dimming headlights for years, there have been the turning ones since at least 2015. They are not in any way "banned".

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by staples323

3 cylinder engines have been around for awhile. Much more prevalent in motorcycles but becoming a lot more common in cars these days

3cylinder, 1 liter

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Did someone say THREE CYLINDERS. Don't look whilst I look away and chuckle.


Does it have a balance shaft ? Does it have an unlimited miles/years warranty ?

The GR Yaris seems to be a truly impressive car with a great engine. I don’t think it is the right character for an 86/BRZ, but it seems awesome for a small hot hatch.

Here is an experienced ‘Ring driver whipping his around much faster cars... and giggling while doing so.

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[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

USA

Not even talking about swivel lights. Also USA

Again totally different subject and YEP USA


Canada does not have and to the best of my knowledge never had these rules. We have had auto dimming headlights for years, there have been the turning ones since at least 2015. They are not in any way "banned".

None of that negates my original comment.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And once upon a time cars were not allowed in cities, the speed limit was 5MPH and you had to have a person with a flag and whistle walk in front of your car.
To say they were banned in today's context is not accurate.

I never said they were banned in today’s context. I said the technology dates back to the ‘60s, and was banned back in the ‘70s in the North American market.