Is ACE header discontinued? Anyone interested in making a replica? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ok1886 · 05-04-2022, 12:22 AM

As topic, I'm in Ontario Canada and searched some posts about EL headers, seems like the ACE A350 got pretty positive reviews years ago, but also seems like they almost discontinued on official website.
Found Subiedepot and ft86motorsports still have products for special order, but I also contacted a Chinese factory which can make replica for it under 1000CAD but need 20 orders to start production, anyone still interested in the first gen brz/86 and looking for a header like that?

x808drifter · 05-04-2022, 12:48 AM

Gonna be honest with you.

This sounds like a scam.
The 100% bad Chinese fake product English is a big Red Flag for me.

This is also your first post.
You've been lurking here since 2020???

Have you tried contacting ACE directly?

ok1886 · 05-04-2022, 12:51 AM

Get it, thanks buddy

ok1886 · 05-04-2022, 01:12 AM

By the way didn't post anything because most information are so useful and enough here, and just started to have idea about modifying the header since got the car in 2020. Maybe I should send a email to ACE.

spcmafia · 05-04-2022, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ok1886

By the way didn't post anything because most information are so useful and enough here, and just started to have idea about modifying the header since got the car in 2020. Maybe I should send a email to ACE.

I believe ACE is discontinued as of this moment, I don't remember where I saw tha notice, but don't quote me on that. But you can always go with JDL, from which quality is outstanding.

China parts are a NO-NO.

weederr33 · 05-04-2022, 01:49 PM

I heard they stopped selling them because most twin owners are cheap and they also catered to Porsche. And those owners have money to blow. Lol makes sense since most people talked about how Tomei and OFH were cheaper and just as good. So that right there shows people won’t spend much. Same thing happened with the Nameless Performance and Cosworth packages.

CSG Mike · 05-04-2022, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

I heard they stopped selling them because most twin owners are cheap and they also catered to Porsche. And those owners have money to blow. Lol makes sense since most people talked about how Tomei and OFH were cheaper and just as good. So that right there shows people won’t spend much. Same thing happened with the Nameless Performance and Cosworth packages.

Basically this.

Ace's welds were top notch, and it was obvious when you looked at the end product. The ultimate power and powerband speaks for itself. Unfortunately, the general concensus is that FRS/BRZ guys will take a product that gives you 80% of the gains for 20% of the price. Porsche owners on the other hand, are willing to pay a 80% premium for a 20% larger gain. Case in point, a GT3 owner who pays 180k for a 500hp car, vs a Mustang owner who pays 40k for a 460hp car.

Some used Ace headers are still exchanging hands.

Nameless is plagued with copies.

Tcoat · 05-04-2022, 02:19 PM

Ebay is already littered with cheap Chinese knockoffs of brand name headers up to and including ACE.
If anybody thinks they are going to get an ACE quality "replica" for $1,000 CAD then I have a deal on a nice building to sell them.

NoHaveMSG · 05-04-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Nameless is plagued with copies.

So is JDL. I have seen a few copies of their UEL.

Thefalls · 05-04-2022, 02:55 PM

Look up Rogue Motorsport in UK.

That's the closest you will get to the ACE and with top notch quality.

RToyo86 · 05-04-2022, 04:42 PM

Cost is what made me steer away from ace.
With the Canadian conversion it was around $4000+ to get the correct tune, header and ecutek hardware/license.

A $1000 comparable header is a compelling argument, but there needs to at least be a prototype on hand to test. JDLs 4-2-1 header sells for around $1700CAD and I didn't calculate taxes/duty.

Lantanafrs2 · 05-04-2022, 07:51 PM

I paid a few hundred for a used open flash header and have had no problem. If it cracks or fails I'll put the stock manifold back on. Car is way stronger than stock. Not high end el stronger but strong enough for a 25k sports car.

Calum · 05-04-2022, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Basically this.

Ace's welds were top notch, and it was obvious when you looked at the end product. The ultimate power and powerband speaks for itself. Unfortunately, the general concensus is that FRS/BRZ guys will take a product that gives you 80% of the gains for 20% of the price. Porsche owners on the other hand, are willing to pay a 80% premium for a 20% larger gain. Case in point, a GT3 owner who pays 180k for a 500hp car, vs a Mustang owner who pays 40k for a 460hp car.

Some used Ace headers are still exchanging hands.

Nameless is plagued with copies.

Are the header to collector gaskets still available?

CSG Mike · 05-04-2022, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum

Are the header to collector gaskets still available?

Yup!

05-04-2022, 12:22 AM	#1
ok1886 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Location: Peterborough,ON,Canada Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is ACE header discontinued? Anyone interested in making a replica? As topic, I'm in Ontario Canada and searched some posts about EL headers, seems like the ACE A350 got pretty positive reviews years ago, but also seems like they almost discontinued on official website. Found Subiedepot and ft86motorsports still have products for special order, but I also contacted a Chinese factory which can make replica for it under 1000CAD but need 20 orders to start production, anyone still interested in the first gen brz/86 and looking for a header like that?

05-04-2022, 01:49 PM	#6
weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,325 Thanks: 4,528 Thanked 5,586 Times in 2,928 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I heard they stopped selling them because most twin owners are cheap and they also catered to Porsche. And those owners have money to blow. Lol makes sense since most people talked about how Tomei and OFH were cheaper and just as good. So that right there shows people won’t spend much. Same thing happened with the Nameless Performance and Cosworth packages. __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

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Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Ebay is already littered with cheap Chinese knockoffs of brand name headers up to and including ACE. If anybody thinks they are going to get an ACE quality "replica" for $1,000 CAD then I have a deal on a nice building to sell them. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

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x808drifter LMGTFY Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 13 FRS, 91 Miata Location: Lava Town, HI Posts: 2,776 Thanks: 5,561 Thanked 3,646 Times in 1,625 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gonna be honest with you. This sounds like a scam. The 100% bad Chinese fake product English is a big Red Flag for me. This is also your first post. You've been lurking here since 2020??? Have you tried contacting ACE directly?

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ok1886 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Location: Peterborough,ON,Canada Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get it, thanks buddy

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ok1886 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Location: Peterborough,ON,Canada Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	By the way didn't post anything because most information are so useful and enough here, and just started to have idea about modifying the header since got the car in 2020. Maybe I should send a email to ACE.

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RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,705 Thanked 2,194 Times in 1,123 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cost is what made me steer away from ace. With the Canadian conversion it was around $4000+ to get the correct tune, header and ecutek hardware/license. A $1000 comparable header is a compelling argument, but there needs to at least be a prototype on hand to test. JDLs 4-2-1 header sells for around $1700CAD and I didn't calculate taxes/duty.

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