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Old 08-25-2023, 04:40 PM   #15
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1. Looking at that we don't need to corner balance the car, right?

2. What if one installs coilovers and drop the car by say 20mm or someone else by 2"?
1. A brand new from factory, bone stock car, isn't height adjustable so you won't be able to corner balance even if you wanted to.

2. After installing coilovers and setting ride heights is precisely when corner balancing becomes a consideration, but it's not necessary for the vast majority of people. Just having a car with measurably equal ride heights at all 4 corners is sufficient and will get you ~90% of the way there.




Corner balancing makes sense in 2 cases:

1.As others have mentioned here, if you can feel funny behavior in your suspension, but you can't visually identify a problem. I'll note that cross weights like those posted by RedReplicant are extreme enough that I would expect them to be visible by just looking at the cars ride height but heavily modified vehicles can do strange things so that's not always a promise.

2. The other case is for top level autocrossers, time attackers and racers who need every tiny bit of advantage they can get. Most national level champions have done this so it's clearly helpful to reach that level, but unless you're within a second or two of the top runners without it, I'm not sure I'd recommend spending the money if there are still other places to spend it.
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Old 08-25-2023, 08:05 PM   #16
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1. A brand new from factory, bone stock car, isn't height adjustable so you won't be able to corner balance even if you wanted to.

2. After installing coilovers and setting ride heights is precisely when corner balancing becomes a consideration, but it's not necessary for the vast majority of people. Just having a car with measurably equal ride heights at all 4 corners is sufficient and will get you ~90% of the way there.




Corner balancing makes sense in 2 cases:

1.As others have mentioned here, if you can feel funny behavior in your suspension, but you can't visually identify a problem. I'll note that cross weights like those posted by RedReplicant are extreme enough that I would expect them to be visible by just looking at the cars ride height but heavily modified vehicles can do strange things so that's not always a promise.

2. The other case is for top level autocrossers, time attackers and racers who need every tiny bit of advantage they can get. Most national level champions have done this so it's clearly helpful to reach that level, but unless you're within a second or two of the top runners without it, I'm not sure I'd recommend spending the money if there are still other places to spend it.
Thanks. About 1, I didn't form my question very well. Given stock balance with stock height which I assume is same side to side, the car looks better than previous gen. So if I do put coil overs and do even drop on all 4, I wouldn't need tinker as it would be close to balanced as well? Assuming person doesn't care much about driver weight not being factored in.
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Thanks. About 1, I didn't form my question very well. Given stock balance with stock height which I assume is same side to side, the car looks better than previous gen. So if I do put coil overs and do even drop on all 4, I wouldn't need tinker as it would be close to balanced as well? Assuming person doesn't care much about driver weight not being factored in.

That's right, this is how I did my car and it's been good for regular driving and track days.
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