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Old 12-13-2016, 09:29 AM   #1
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Drive 'tests' the 2017 BRZ

Am I alone when I say that I am sick and tired of 'professionals' reviewing a twin only to conclude that it has a 'serious' lack of power.
The article even concludes that buying a Miata is a better idea (it is maybe lighter but it has 50hp less) or a Camaro or Mustang.
He also has serious problems with grip. Wait, what? Testing a RWD car on summer tires in NY in December in the snow and wet and you slip?

ARTICLE HERE

This guy really doesn't get it.
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:26 AM   #2
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hack journalists.

that these get compared with cameros, even the new ones...ill never understand. i TRIED to like them. the 1LE is amazing on paper.

but go sit in the thing and it feels like a bathtub. and i'm like 6 foot 2!
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:28 AM   #3
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(When I spun out at a shopping mall trying to get out of the way of a speeding Audi who had just blown through a stop sign, it was surprising, dangerous, and terrifying all at once.)
Any credibility he had left was gone when I read this statement. You want more power, but you can't even handle 200...
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:44 AM   #4
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Well, most reviewers are not enthusiasts about light sport vehicles. They think v8 and 1/4 mile. 'nough said.


I tried the '17 BRZ. I love interior so much! And the new FRS hippopotamus!


The new seats are so awesome! I want em I want em I want em!

Also steering wheel reminds me of G35. More luxury in sport. All that is missing is stiffer suspension. I always love super stiff Toyota's. Makes me feel grounded.

Quickness-wise meh.

When I was asked in the past, 'but can it beat a Corvette?,' Idc. It's a cute car and really personal. I get so happy when I drive other people's twin. Those with faster cars seem to get tired of them quick.

I should start reviewing cars on YouTube.
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Any credibility he had left was gone when I read this statement. You want more power, but you can't even handle 200...
so true. L2D son
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:25 PM   #6
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Am I alone when I say that I am sick and tired of 'professionals' reviewing a twin only to conclude that it has a 'serious' lack of power.
The article even concludes that buying a Miata is a better idea (it is maybe lighter but it has 50hp less) or a Camaro or Mustang.
He also has serious problems with grip. Wait, what? Testing a RWD car on summer tires in NY in December in the snow and wet and you slip?

ARTICLE HERE

This guy really doesn't get it.
that reviewer is a dumb ass jigga
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:47 PM   #7
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So you test a car in wet, snowy conditions and call it underpowered? Assholes.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:55 PM   #8
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WHO IS IT FOR? Performance drivers on a budget

I find that annoying. Why can't people with money enjoy cars like this?

I didn't buy the twin cause I was on a budget. I bought it because I love it!
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I feel like everyone who hates on these cars for not having enough power needs to be sent to a proper autocross in a brand new Corvette.

When they get beat by a good driver in a 90hp civic, ask them if they still need more power.
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I like my FA20 the way it is. Doesn't need a turbo. All it needed was the sound tube plug and some 93 octane fuel and it's good to go. I love free revving naturally aspirated engines like this.

Then I put on a N1 exhaust so I could hear that lovely boxer growl. I know everybody buys this car for the handling and so did I, but I think I'm one of the few that actually likes the engine too.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:22 AM   #11
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I wouldn't choose a Camaro V6 over it because the Camaro handles like shit and drives like a boat. The Camaro is only faster in a straight line, I think the article is dead wrong. The article also seems to be written by a poor journalist. the article is too short, not backed by numbers and it is nothing more than his opinion. It's not very well written and is more about flash (it needs more power damn it- really?) than substance.
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WHO IS IT FOR? Performance drivers on a budget

I find that annoying. Why can't people with money enjoy cars like this?

I didn't buy the twin cause I was on a budget. I bought it because I love it!
Same here. I did not buy buy it because I am a 'performance driver' (whatever that is) nor am I on a budget. I am all over the place when it comes to my car hobby. I came from a Lexus LX and the Lexus RC350 was on my short list too, which is a coupe costing more then double the price of the BRZ. But I could not get over the spindle grill and the fussy design in general and the overall softness and numb feeling. Even the Jaguar F type was on my radar but I couldn't justify the money (maintenance, issues etc..) Camaro's, Mustangs, Challengers or anything else domestic was never an option.

I am old (not as old as @Tcoat lol) I do not finance. The bargain BRZ hits the spot. It captures the essence af driving and the reason I fell in love (in the eighties) with cars.
I do not 'need' more power but I like playing with my toys. So I modify and change it to my liking. When I am driving I mind my own business and don't drive like an idiot comparing my car with whatever is out there.
And yes, I know that I am not the average target group for which this car is designed but this article hits a nerve.
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Same here. I did not buy buy it because I am a 'performance driver' (whatever that is) nor am I on a budget. I am all over the place when it comes to my car hobby. I came from a Lexus LX and the Lexus RC350 was on my short list too, which is a coupe costing more then double the price of the RC. But I could not get over the spindle grill and the fussy design in general and the overall softness and numb feeling. Even the Jaguar F type was on my radar but I couldn't justify the money (maintenance, issues etc..) Camaro's, Mustangs, Challengers or anything else domestic was never an option.

I am old (not as old as @Tcoat lol) I do not finance. The bargain BRZ hits the spot. It captures the essence af driving and the reason I fell in love (in the eighties) with cars.
I do not 'need' more power but I like playing with my toys. So I modify and change it to my liking. When I am driving I mind my own business and don't drive like an idiot comparing my car with whatever is out there.
And yes, I know that I am not the average target group for which this car is designed but this article hits a nerve.

I did not buy it for "performance" driving either. For how I get to drive 98% of the time it may as well be a Camry. I bought it as an inexpensive throw away that I can clock mega miles on and then just get a new one in 5 years. It is damn near the perfect vehicle for my needs and if I had sat down and wrote a wish list of what I wanted in a car it would have checked every single box. Not one of those other vehicles in the review would have checked near as many of my boxes. Not even close.
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I think he gets it. That is the biggest gripe across the board with this vehicle in general.
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