09-13-2020, 08:42 AM | #127 |
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Fair enough, but as was said before, nobody here or in the video was expecting a BRZ to keep up/beat legit supercars.
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09-13-2020, 10:14 AM | #128 | |
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Increased power to some people is no different than a set of wheels, or a widebody kit to others. Every modification has risks associated. If you understand the risks and welcome the outcome, who is to say that one variant of modification is any more "fun" than another? I certainly know that I appreciate any modifications people have done if it's something they enjoy |
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09-13-2020, 04:56 PM | #130 | |
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FWIW, I don't think they're great drivers. I think even they admit it.
I'd expect all other drivers at the event to be a lot more competent, which remains the largest factor in a lap time. |
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Same can be said the other way around. There are people claiming they could follow a Porsche turbo and then you check the video to realize that the other driver wasn't competent at all. I believe that we should have some common sense about what a stock or even modified GT86/BRZ can do independently of driver experience. Trying to to chase or even catch high performance (super-) cars on a fast race track is quite an overstatement. At least with reasonable mods that will not risk considerably the lifetime of the motor and other components.
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That just proved what MCM proved the 86 catches up in the corners but supercars pull away in the straight.
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I'm kind of surprised at the lack of track etiquette.
It's a lapping event, not an actual race. Otherwise that was fun to watch, Moog seems to be driving the car better than the first time even with more power. He was constantly over driving the car when he was out on his NA session. |
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Their modded BRZ makes around 320hp at the crank and weighs in the 2800lbs range. This should make for a pretty quick track car, which can follow a Cayman or even a non-GT / Turbo 911 with relative ease, especially with these tyres. Modded cars generally perform better than stock cars with similar weight & hp on a track, simply because they've typically got all the supporting mods that help go fast (tyres, brakes, suspension, etc.). |
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I think that's what makes it so fun. Its more like what I'd be doing in the car on a track, not some professional. Heck, they actually have enough track time to qualify for the experienced event, so, they're probably a lot better than me. They do a great job of capturing the fun an amateur can have with this car.
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Reminds me of this old video of turbo gt86 vs mp4-12c, just not taken quite to the same extreme:
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So what happens when you take three modified, blue, two door cars to the track?
they all break |
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About the 911's I would bet that they are quicker on a fast race track, but it all depends also on the driver as posted above. Last edited by nikitopo; 09-15-2020 at 03:38 AM. |
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Let's be honest, we know a 911 turbo would destroy an 86. I have a bar of boost on E85, and even with that type of power, I wouldn't expect my car to beat a 911 given all else being equal. There is a certain point when the car matters sometimes more than the driver, and then as speed and traction increases, it becomes much more about the driver. This is when there is more than enough traction and power for the driver's abilities, where the driver is the bottleneck in performance. This is where the bigger difference is the driver's abilities and their knowledge of the track more than the difference in cars. This is essentially what the video shows.
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