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Old 08-28-2021, 05:47 PM   #1
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Billet Camber Plates & Mounts @ 949 Racing

Our new shock mounts are in stock and ready to ship. Click link for more details. http://949racing.com/949-racing-shock-mount-86.aspx
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  • Up to -3.5 front camber
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  • Most available bump travel of any camber plate

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Is this -3.5 front camber at stock height?
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Is this -3.5 front camber at stock height?
Strut suspensions don't change camber much with height. Max camber with any strut will be when the LCA is level with the ground, ball joint at furthest distance from subframe. So full bump or full droop, the arc of the LCA puts the ball joint a few mm closer to subframe, which reduces camber by only a small fraction. Not like a wishbone or multi link where you can engineer in radical camber curves.

Technically, most strut cars lose camber as you lower them because the LCA's are tilted up, putting the ball joint closer to the subframe. One of several reasons we strongly recommend RCA (Roll Center Adjusters) on any 86 if you're lowering it. Blub uses the Whiteline kit and it's an integral part of its set up.
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Old 08-30-2021, 06:22 PM   #4
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Impressive for about half the price of my RaceSeng camber plates - only feature missing being caster adjustment, but it's debatable how necessary that is.
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Impressive for about half the price of my RaceSeng camber plates - only feature missing being caster adjustment, but it's debatable how necessary that is.
Thanks. Production engineering is started at the initial product concept. Not just how cool can we make it, but how can we make it at all. Many factors in machining steps, sensitivity to tolerance, tolerance stacks, using OTS components. We're good at that so we tend to offer better overall value for genuine track tested race parts.

We have not found a need for caster adjustment either. We have a design with caster adjustment but it added a lot of complexity, cost and wear points so we stuck with this simpler design.
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Old 09-03-2021, 01:15 AM   #6
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I didn't see it listed, I would love to pick these up for my Bilstein B14s. Assuming it's compatible (specifically for the rear shock tops)
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Correct. We do not have the right adapters for the Bilstein yet but are working on those. Should have them by December or so.
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Thanks. Production engineering is started at the initial product concept. Not just how cool can we make it, but how can we make it at all. Many factors in machining steps, sensitivity to tolerance, tolerance stacks, using OTS components. We're good at that so we tend to offer better overall value for genuine track tested race parts.

We have not found a need for caster adjustment either. We have a design with caster adjustment but it added a lot of complexity, cost and wear points so we stuck with this simpler design.
Have you guys ever tried an high caster setup on this platform?
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Have you guys ever tried an high caster setup on this platform?
Nope. We tend not to experiment unless we see a need and we haven't seen a need. Blub (our development car) works very well with stock caster.

Most 86's set up for auto-x or HPDE are just running too little front camber. The other common issue we see are two piece China coilovers with lim ited bump travel paired with poorly designed camber plates that end up losing 1-2" of critical bump travel. So the front is on the bump stops in hard cornering, which generates understeer. So the owner puts a huge rear sway bar on trying to get rotation. The end result is a car that doesn't turn in well, has a twitchy rear end that requires lots of mid corner steering corrections and hates bumps. Sound familiar?

Note how little steering angle, how well it takes the 10" tall kerbs, how few steering corrections needed. This was one of the many lap records Blub has. Camber plate design is just one piece of the puzzle.

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More adapters being made. Should be here around December.

Shocks we fit now:
Xida (Tractive)
MCS
AST
BC Racing (and derivatives)
- Feal
- Fortune Auto
- Meister R
- Stance

The adapters on their way will add the following:
TRD
Tein (60 or 65mm springs)
ST/ KW
RSR
RCE
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Koni
Bilstein
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More adapters being made. Should be here around December.

Shocks we fit now:
Xida (Tractive)
MCS
AST
BC Racing (and derivatives)
- Feal
- Fortune Auto
- Meister R
- Stance

The adapters on their way will add the following:
TRD
Tein (60 or 65mm springs)
ST/ KW
RSR
RCE
OEM
Koni
Bilstein
JRZ
Just for clarification, the 12x1.25 top nut fits the MCS, correct?
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Just for clarification, the 12x1.25 top nut fits the MCS, correct?
Yup. Always visit the product page for the latest information. If you are unsure, simply walk out to your car and take some measurements.
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Always visit the product page for the latest information. If you are unsure, simply walk out to your car and take some measurements.

I dont have the MCS dampers yet to measure, they are on order. I can email Wyatt at MCS, but thought since I was purchasing the product from you, youd be able to assist.

The products are loaded into my cart on your page. The first drop down for options selection drop down box does not have MCS in the list although the second drop down box for shaft size does.


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I dont have the MCS dampers yet to measure, they are on order. I can email Wyatt at MCS, but thought since I was purchasing the product from you, youd be able to assist.

The products are loaded into my cart on your page. The first drop down for options selection drop down box does not have MCS in the list although the second drop down box for shaft size does.


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Oops. Yes the MCS are 12/12.

I will update the site if that info is missing.
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