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Old 03-11-2016, 01:52 AM   #29
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If memory serves, you have the original hand made paddles, correct? If so, we have a standing offer to replace them with the new injection molded version. All you have to do is cover round trip shipping to get the free upgrade. You will still be getting product made in the USA and backed by our one year warranty.

As for the adhesive, it was tested in the peak of Southern California summer hitting 110 degrees Fahrenheit with the car parked in the sun without failure. We did move to a thicker adhesive to accommodate for the loose tolerances we observed on the OEM paddles (+/- 0.010") so it may have simply been a tolerance issue (the OEM parts are made in China, go figure). Our injection molded parts are manufactured here in California to a tight industry standard tolerance of +/- 0.005". In addition, the 3M VHB adhesive we use is designed specifically for high temperature environments and is rated at 300 degrees Fahrenheit long term, and 500 degrees short term. At worst, the interior of a car will reach equilibrium at 190 degrees on a hot day in the sun so the adhesive is in fact over spec'd for the application as far as temperature is concerned.

In any case, if you would like to do the upgrade, please shoot me a PM so we can square away the details.
Wow. That's awesome. Yeah they are one of the original sets. Hope you dont mind one is stripped and one has an uneven paint job lol. PM coming shortly.
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Wow. That's awesome. Yeah they are one of the original sets. Hope you dont mind one is stripped and one has an uneven paint job lol. PM coming shortly.
I don't mind if they're messed up. Yes, they were extremely difficult to paint and required a lot of sanding and polishing to get a presentable appearance. Ultimately, however, I would much rather have happy customers rocking great product than a quick buck. This is more about passion than anything else and the injection molded paddles are really bitchin' IMHO so I would really like for you to have a set of these bad boys. Thanks for your support.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:47 AM   #31
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BTW, may i suggest possible design - to mount paddle extensions not via adhesive, not via screws to original paddles .. but via some plate that goes around oem padles from another side and is screwed to paddle extensions. This way:
1) more secure and sure mount then via any adhesive
2) easier to remove if user ever needs that vs adhesive
3) nothing needs to be screwed to stock paddles. Just Extension from one paddle side, mounting plate from another.
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BTW, may i suggest possible design - to mount paddle extensions not via adhesive, not via screws to original paddles .. but via some plate that goes around oem padles from another side and is screwed to paddle extensions. This way:
1) more secure and sure mount then via any adhesive
2) easier to remove if user ever needs that vs adhesive
3) nothing needs to be screwed to stock paddles. Just Extension from one paddle side, mounting plate from another.
But how would you mount the plate to the paddles? still have the same problems you're trying to avoid unless Im just not getting what you are saying
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Simple sandwich - mounting plate>pressed in stock paddles in middle>paddles extension. Bolts secure that plate to extension via holes outside stock paddles perimeter. No adhesive nor drilling in stock paddles needed.
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BTW, may i suggest possible design - to mount paddle extensions not via adhesive, not via screws to original paddles .. but via some plate that goes around oem padles from another side and is screwed to paddle extensions. This way:
1) more secure and sure mount then via any adhesive
2) easier to remove if user ever needs that vs adhesive
3) nothing needs to be screwed to stock paddles. Just Extension from one paddle side, mounting plate from another.
If I had a 3D printer, I'd be making these myself. Could even make them so they're toolless. Just put the bottom plate over the back and the front cover snaps into the rear with tabs that stick out a tad so you can remove them later, if necessary.
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In addition, the 3M VHB adhesive we use is designed specifically for high temperature environments and is rated at 300 degrees Fahrenheit long term, and 500 degrees short term.
I work in manufacturing, 3M VHB is fantastic stuff. With enough VHB and good surface prep you could probably stick yourself on the ceiling lol
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didn't want to make holes in the original paddles so i stuck them on with 3M tape and they hold on great..surprisingly to me
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