follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-14-2021, 04:41 AM   #1
Narvydas
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
BRZ CEL when I release accelerator in gear

Hello everyone,

Feeling pretty helpless here, so I hope to get some ideas from you guys.
My BRZ is 2013 year model, manual transmission. Has around 70k miles on it.

Code P0018 keeps popping up together with C1201 (it says 'EGI abnormal'). I have tried changing timing chains, sprocket, tried swapping sensors and VVTs to opposite sides. Still the same damn code on the same side.

I noticed that this happens mostly when I release accelerator at around 3k rpm in gear. There is also not a very pleasant sound around that rpm area when I take of my foot of the gas and just roll in gear.

I was thinking maybe it's ECU, but seems like mechanical issue from the way it occurs, but what do I know...

Also I was thinking maybe there is something wrong with the injection system, since it says 'EGI abnormal' on C1201 code.

I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this. Maybe someone had this issue and solved it somehow. I know its a 'popular' issue and I have read every thread, but didn't find anyone who solved it.

Thanks guys
Narvydas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2021, 06:37 AM   #2
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Any mods to the car?
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2021, 07:05 AM   #3
Narvydas
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
No, it's a stock car
Narvydas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2021, 07:19 AM   #4
Narvydas
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Also, yesterday I drove it for one hour or even more and it never popped up. Then I came back home and turned the car off. Then I drove it again and it immediately popped up.

I feel like if I disconnect the battery and the first time I drive it after that it doesn't pop up. But I still need to do some more testing to prove this. Just trying to find the pattern of this issue...
Narvydas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2021, 10:38 AM   #5
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,166
Thanks: 18,158
Thanked 16,325 Times in 7,383 Posts
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
C1201 is a short to ground for the ABS inlet LF, unrealted to how the engine is running.

That P0018 code is a bastard to get rid of. It seems you have taken almost every step to eliminate it. There are a few people fighting it at all times here.
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2021, 05:18 PM   #6
Narvydas
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Yeah, it's such a pain. Will keep digging I guess..
Narvydas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2021, 07:31 PM   #7
RZNT4R
Professional Mechanic
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: 2017 86 6MT Oceanic
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 789
Thanks: 17
Thanked 633 Times in 371 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG View Post
C1201 is a short to ground for the ABS inlet LF, unrealted to how the engine is running.
No

C1201 is exactly related to how the engine is running, but it's just the vsc system storing a code due to an engine control fault.

To quote the description for 0018:

"To monitor the correlation of the intake camshaft position and crankshaft position, the ECM checks the VVT neutral position against the VVT learning value while coasting. If the VVT neutral position is out of the specified VVT learning value range in driving cycles, the ECM illuminates the MIL and stores DTC P0016 (bank 1) or P0018 (bank 2)."

It trip on the 2nd drive after clearing because it's a 2 trip detection logic
RZNT4R is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to RZNT4R For This Useful Post:
NoHaveMSG (06-14-2021)
Old 06-14-2021, 07:54 PM   #8
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,166
Thanks: 18,158
Thanked 16,325 Times in 7,383 Posts
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by RZNT4R View Post
No

C1201 is exactly related to how the engine is running, but it's just the vsc system storing a code due to an engine control fault.

To quote the description for 0018:

"To monitor the correlation of the intake camshaft position and crankshaft position, the ECM checks the VVT neutral position against the VVT learning value while coasting. If the VVT neutral position is out of the specified VVT learning value range in driving cycles, the ECM illuminates the MIL and stores DTC P0016 (bank 1) or P0018 (bank 2)."

It trip on the 2nd drive after clearing because it's a 2 trip detection logic
Ah, the website that I check for codes gave me something totally different. Thanks for the correction, I should have known to be checking the manual and not just googling them.
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.

Last edited by NoHaveMSG; 06-15-2021 at 12:12 AM.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2021, 06:49 AM   #9
RZNT4R
Professional Mechanic
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: 2017 86 6MT Oceanic
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 789
Thanks: 17
Thanked 633 Times in 371 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Now that I'm not on mobile.

Narvydas will need a good scan tool with OEM-level access to go further on his P0018, that's just the nature of that code. You've got to have actuator control and be able to check the cam angles and learned values to go down the troubleshooting chart. With the right USB-OBDII cable and techstream you can make that work.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf P0018.pdf (310.9 KB, 50 views)
File Type: pdf C1201.pdf (91.9 KB, 46 views)
RZNT4R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2021, 07:22 AM   #10
Narvydas
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I found a place to get my car checked with a proper scan, will see what happens. It's not an issue which you can easily detect. Thank you very much for you insight guys, I really appreciate it
Narvydas is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cusco Accelerator Pedal norcalpb Interior Parts (Incl. Lighting) 2 03-25-2020 01:55 PM
FS: Cusco Accelerator Pedal mb_ Interior Parts (Incl. Lighting) 5 08-21-2015 05:46 PM
Accelerator Pedal Blu-by-U Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 14 03-23-2014 10:59 PM
WTB: Cusco Accelerator Pedal BeRZed Want-To-Buy Requests 0 03-03-2014 02:12 AM
TOP GEAR Aus Magazine + RELEASE DATE 4point8 AUSTRALIA 21 03-06-2012 09:24 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.