valve spring issue?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Yep, if it don't tick, it may be too tight, if it ticks loudly, it may be too lose, so, a mild tick is jest riiiight -

Besides, with one hand on the wrench and one hand on the screwdriver, which hand is holding the feeler gauge?


humfrz

Exactly. And this is also why the injector noise from the FRS still freaks me out to this day. Sounds like things are too damn loose.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Exactly. And this is also why the injector noise from the FRS still freaks me out to this day. Sounds like things are too damn loose.

Yep, isn't it surprising how much we relied on our ears to tune and check the general well being of a car's engine and drivetrain.

I'm ah feared that knowledge/skill will be largely lost when our generation passes.


humfrz

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Yep, isn't it surprising how much we relied on our ears to tune and check the general well being of a car's engine and drivetrain.

I'm ah feared that knowledge/skill will be largely lost when our generation passes.


humfrz

It's going faster than you think.

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by DandoX

I'm bringing mine to Longo in March (a little before my registration is due).

Can you post back with your experience and how your car is when you get it back?

I also called Longo a few times and spoke with different advisors, one told me they dont offer rental cars, another did. One person told me 4-5 hours and another person said 4-5 days. So it seems not all the service advisors are that knowledgeable about this recall, but a few are.

The service rep who wrote up the service recall order said 4 to 5 days and I did get rental car.

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by humfrz

And, does that not bother you?? -


humfrz

Yeah it does bother me. But what can I do? not get it fixed? Even though at 65000 miles I had no problems with the car. I have to be patient.What bothers me the most is the crappy valve springs that Subaru installed. The car should have never been partnered with Subaru. It should have been an all Toyota car. Good Luck to the people who are buying the Supra with the BMW motor.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

Yeah it does bother me. But what can I do? not get it fixed? Even though at 65000 miles I had no problems with the car. I have to be patient.What bothers me the most is the crappy valve springs that Subaru installed. The car should have never been partnered with Subaru. It should have been an all Toyota car. Good Luck to the people who are buying the Supra with the BMW motor.

Not to worry, five hours, five days - depends on what we find when we open it up...

I ask a young surgeon once, just before he was about to remove one of my kidneys with cancer "how long will the operation take?".

He wisely replied "it will take as long as it takes".





humfrz

[S. Snake]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

Yeah it does bother me. But what can I do? not get it fixed? Even though at 65000 miles I had no problems with the car. I have to be patient.What bothers me the most is the crappy valve springs that Subaru installed. The car should have never been partnered with Subaru. It should have been an all Toyota car. Good Luck to the people who are buying the Supra with the BMW motor.

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and state that this car is mostly Subaru parts bin stuff as far as the drivetrain is installed (with the exception of the D4S system) and in Subaru's defense they make extremely reliable vehicles even if the spark plugs are hard to change. I'm totally willing to give them a pass on the valve springs thing because as far as internal engine recalls go (I'm looking at you Focus RS headgasket) the failure rate is pretty small.

If this car was all Toyota it would have been a FWD abomination (I'm looking at you last generation Celica), and nobody wants that.

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[Ultramaroon]

I was expecting to hear reports of oil spewing all over the place. I'm really encouraged by the success stories from the early volunteers.

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by S. Snake

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and state that this car is mostly Subaru parts bin stuff as far as the drivetrain is installed (with the exception of the D4S system) and in Subaru's defense they make extremely reliable vehicles even if the spark plugs are hard to change. I'm totally willing to give them a pass on the valve springs thing because as far as internal engine recalls go (I'm looking at you Focus RS headgasket) the failure rate is pretty small.

If this car was all Toyota it would have been a FWD abomination (I'm looking at you last generation Celica), and nobody wants that.

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If I remember correctly Mr. Toyoda wanted a rear wheel drive econo sports car. and Subaru wanted an all wheel drive car. Production of the car was held up for 18 months because Subaru wanted an All wheel drive which they are known for. After Toyota built a mock up of the car, Subaru finally agreed to do a rear wheel drive and realizing they could enter the Japanese sports car circuits.
Toyota Corp. owns 14% of Fuji Heavy Industries which owns Subaru. Subaru makes boxer motors and that's what Mr. Toyoda wanted. Subaru had a plant sitting idle, so they built it at the Subaru plant. Subaru designed the suspension and motor but with the Toyota specs 86x86 pistons. Toyota Tada San designed the car with the Lexus D4S, the Automatic transmission minus 2 gears and rear end. It was a convenience for Toyota to build it with Subaru.
I've always been fond of Subaru but never owned one. At the time, sure why not do it together but I always wanted 100% Toyota. Even if that meant doing an inline 4 cylinder motor so be it. It is what is.
It's an expensive recall for Toyota and especially Subaru. They have the BRZ, the Impreza and the Forester to fix. Oops! Subaru tried to cut corners to save $ and bought cheap Chinese springs from a different supplier. Or it might have been new design and that Failed or both. Either way, we got screwed because of it.

[bcj]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I was expecting to hear reports of oil spewing all over the place. I'm really encouraged by the success stories from the early volunteers.

Probably need to give it a month or so to see if they are really that tight, or if there will be weeping and wailing.

[S. Snake]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

If I remember correctly Mr. Toyoda wanted a rear wheel drive econo sports car. and Subaru wanted an all wheel drive car. Production of the car was held up for 18 months because Subaru wanted an All wheel drive which they are known for. After Toyota built a mock up of the car, Subaru finally agreed to do a rear wheel drive and realizing they could enter the Japanese sports car circuits.
Toyota Corp. owns 14% of Fuji Heavy Industries which owns Subaru. Subaru makes boxer motors and that's what Mr. Toyoda wanted. Subaru had a plant sitting idle, so they built it at the Subaru plant. Subaru designed the suspension and motor but with the Toyota specs 86x86 pistons. Toyota Tada San designed the car with the Lexus D4S, the Automatic transmission minus 2 gears and rear end. It was a convenience for Toyota to build it with Subaru.
I've always been fond of Subaru but never owned one. At the time, sure why not do it together but I always wanted 100% Toyota. Even if that meant doing an inline 4 cylinder motor so be it. It is what is.
It's an expensive recall for Toyota and especially Subaru. They have the BRZ, the Impreza and the Forester to fix. Oops! Subaru tried to cut corners to save $ and bought cheap Chinese springs from a different supplier. Or it might have been new design and that Failed or both. Either way, we got screwed because of it.

I don't feel screwed. Especially because my boosted 13' is a blast to drive and will get it's spark plugs and oil change done for free labor. And I hopefully will get a newish rental to tool around in.

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by S. Snake

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and state that this car is mostly Subaru parts bin stuff as far as the drivetrain is installed (with the exception of the D4S system) and in Subaru's defense they make extremely reliable vehicles even if the spark plugs are hard to change. I'm totally willing to give them a pass on the valve springs thing because as far as internal engine recalls go (I'm looking at you Focus RS headgasket) the failure rate is pretty small.

If this car was all Toyota it would have been a FWD abomination (I'm looking at you last generation Celica), and nobody wants that.

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The car is far more Toyota "normal" content than many believe.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71898

[Cesium Rainbow]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Yep, isn't it surprising how much we relied on our ears to tune and check the general well being of a car's engine and drivetrain.

I'm ah feared that knowledge/skill will be largely lost when our generation passes.

Can confirm that nobody taught me a damn thing about how to use my ears in diagnosing a single automotive issue. Like I'd take an indepth course just on using sound as a diagnostic helper if that was a thing.

[S. Snake]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The car is far more Toyota "normal" content than many believe.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71898

To clarify "mostly parts bin Subaru stuff" I was referring to the drivetrain, suspension, certain electronically bits etc. I don't doubt the amount of Toyota "normal" content within the twins. Either way you look at it the Subaru innards could have been replaced by (insert Detroit manufacturer here) and we would be a lot worse off as far as recalls are concerned.

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