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Old 05-01-2020, 10:35 PM   #57
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The A110 is priced at Cayman money, so not really the territory of a Z car. It could make an interesting middle car between a Z and a GTR, though. Plus, it's automatic only.
I am fully aware that it is never going to happen but hypothetically doubling or tripling the volume and sales by making it the Nissan Z and opening up the NA market would probably mean the price would come down considerably. It might even sell for around what the Supra sells for which at one time was the direct competitor for the Datsun and Nissan Z cars.
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I am fully aware that it is never going to happen but hypothetically doubling or tripling the volume and sales by making it the Nissan Z and opening up the NA market would probably mean the price would come down considerably. It might even sell for around what the Supra sells for which at one time was the direct competitor for the Datsun and Nissan Z cars.
The Supra is the price of a Cayman, no?

If the A110 came here I'd imagine it would match the Cayman price (I'm led to believe it competes with in $$$), which is the Supras price~?
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300ZX was pretty pricey, right in line with the mk4 Poopra.
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The Supra is the price of a Cayman, no?

If the A110 came here I'd imagine it would match the Cayman price (I'm led to believe it competes with in $$$), which is the Supras price~?
The base Cayman is around $58,500. Other models cost from there to $96,000. The A110 is priced around the middle of the Cayman range in Europe and Japan but NA typically pays less for car models than other countries. The top level Supra is around the price of the base Cayman.

Mass producing the A110 could make it more affordable but it would have very little in common with anything that preceded it in the Z line so that makes it even more unlikely that Nissan would rebadge it as a Z successor. Too bad though, by all accounts, it is a sweet little sports car.
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I hope if they release something that is geared more towards the simple car market. Nissan has played the fat heavy oversteer card for so long, it's time to go back to something light. I understand this isn't in their reach but damn. I used to love Nissan in the 90s, now every time I ride in one ( my wife's car is an 09 Sentra, my in-law's car is a 13 sentra) they just make me want to vomit. Please Nissan, un-shit yourself. We're waiting

Maybe it's that I can't let the 90s go? I don't know how Toyota even got away with making such a simple car in 2013.
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I hope if they release something that is geared more towards the simple car market. Nissan has played the fat heavy oversteer card for so long, it's time to go back to something light. I understand this isn't in their reach but damn. I used to love Nissan in the 90s, now every time I ride in one ( my wife's car is an 09 Sentra, my in-law's car is a 13 sentra) they just make me want to vomit. Please Nissan, un-shit yourself. We're waiting

Maybe it's that I can't let the 90s go? I don't know how Toyota even got away with making such a simple car in 2013.
I think what you guys want is another Silvia/240sx successor. I owned a 95 SE. Fun car. I had big plans, but things changed.

The pedigree of the Z has been a mid-weight 2 or 2+2 GT car, so I don’t see them downsizing. The Z is also well priced for what you get for $31k, so a more expensive 400z with a 3.0TT engine under $40k is still a bargain.

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Nissan next launched a concept car at the 1999 North American International Auto Show, the 240Z Concept. Clearly a throwback to the original, it was a bright orange two-seater with classic swept-back styling. In addition, it was fully functional, with the 2.4-liter 4-cylinder KA24DE engine from the Nissan 240sx featuring 200 bhp (150 kW) and 180 lb⋅ft (244 N⋅m) of torque. The designers used an original 240Z to provide inspiration and the concept was created in only 12 weeks.[10]

The running concept, featuring a 4-cylinder engine compared to the Z-car's traditional 6-cylinder engine, was eventually thought less than a worthy successor to the line.

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I find it interesting how few 350 and 370 I've seen at the track. I can't remember a single one, actually. There was a modded 240 or 280. I don't remember any 300 series either. Lots of hard parkers drive them, though. And the G35/G37 coupes.
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The Supra is the price of a Cayman, no?

If the A110 came here I'd imagine it would match the Cayman price (I'm led to believe it competes with in $$$), which is the Supras price~?
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The base Cayman is around $58,500. Other models cost from there to $96,000.

The Cayman technically starts at like $58,000, but a realistically equipped one is more like $68-70,000. They charge $2,500 for leather interior in a 60k car, lol.
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Nissan basically became dead to me when they decided to tease but never produce the MID-4.
Uh....are you sure about that?








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That's the ugly Mid-4.

There is a better looking prototype.

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And those god awful, over sized, poorly place, ugly as hell door handles!
I also cross shopped them and every time I walked up to one I shuddered at those door handles. Petty complaint yes but still a deal breaker for me.
I hear you. For years the door handles were also a deal-breaker for me as well. But then, the Infiniti G37 was available at the same time, with the same drivetrain but a much better looking body and more refined interior.

I've owned 3 Infiniti G coupes, 2004 G35, 2008 and 2012 G37, all 6 speed manuals. The G37 was a wonderful car, fast enough to be fun yet refined and comfortable enough to be 'near luxury' and available with a manual transmission. One of my biggest automotive mistakes was selling my last G37 coupe, the 2012, to buy a 2015 Mustang GT. BIG mistake. I foolishly thought the G coupe would always be available and I could always 'go back'.

Not so much. The current Q60 is nothing like the previous generation G37. Soft, flabby, heavy, turbocharged instead of the immediacy and linear response of the old naturally aspirated engine, too much unnecessary electronic tech, and worst of all, no manual transmission. In the face of that, the door handles on the 370Z didn't look so bad (and I was planning on painting them to match the body).

It was a close call between the 370Z and the BRZ. If it wasn't for the disgusting sleaziness of most Nissan dealers, I may well have bought one instead of the BRZ.
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I find it interesting how few 350 and 370 I've seen at the track. I can't remember a single one, actually. There was a modded 240 or 280. I don't remember any 300 series either. Lots of hard parkers drive them, though. And the G35/G37 coupes.
What type of track? Seems like they are a pretty popular platform for drifting, as an entry level drift car, or as a swapping platform. It's short overhangs front and rear, dimensions and stoutness make for a decent drift platform.







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I hear you. For years the door handles were also a deal-breaker for me as well. But then, the Infiniti G37 was available at the same time, with the same drivetrain but a much better looking body and more refined interior.

I've owned 3 Infiniti G coupes, 2004 G35, 2008 and 2012 G37, all 6 speed manuals. The G37 was a wonderful car, fast enough to be fun yet refined and comfortable enough to be 'near luxury' and available with a manual transmission. One of my biggest automotive mistakes was selling my last G37 coupe, the 2012, to buy a 2015 Mustang GT. BIG mistake. I foolishly thought the G coupe would always be available and I could always 'go back'.

Not so much. The current Q60 is nothing like the previous generation G37. Soft, flabby, heavy, turbocharged instead of the immediacy and linear response of the old naturally aspirated engine, too much unnecessary electronic tech, and worst of all, no manual transmission. In the face of that, the door handles on the 370Z didn't look so bad (and I was planning on painting them to match the body).

It was a close call between the 370Z and the BRZ. If it wasn't for the disgusting sleaziness of most Nissan dealers, I may well have bought one instead of the BRZ.
After I sold my 96 Supra NA hardtop, I was looking for a G35 coupe. Things changed, but it was always high on my list for a GT car. It was the American Skyline, after all.

I probably would have bought a 370Z/G35/7 as well if it wasn't for the BRZ.
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Uh....are you sure about that?
It never went into production. They produced several concept cars but it never saw an assembly line, at least to my knowledge.
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