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86TOYO2k17 · 07-01-2020, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by solidsnake11

I should have ~ 550whp reliable and wanting more.

I’d love 550whp. I don’t know how you put it to the ground. Need some extensive suspension tuning to lift the front and squat the rear with some super sticky wide radials or slicks to hookup. Got any times or ETs yet?

solidsnake11 · 07-01-2020, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

I’d love 550whp. I don’t know how you put it to the ground. Need some extensive suspension tuning to lift the front and squat the rear with some super sticky wide radials or slicks to hookup. Got any times or ETs yet?

No unfortunately the tracks traps doesn't work.
It does pretty good on traction with federal 595 rs-rr 265/35r19.

x808drifter · 07-01-2020, 03:03 PM

600ish with a Bore/stroked L28TT

pallen · 07-01-2020, 05:16 PM

I definitely think on a car like this you can go too big, for my tastes anyway. As your power goes up you have to start making a lot of modifications to the car - suspension, bigger wheels, racing clutch, transmission, exhaust. Eventually, it starts feeling like a different kind of car. I was attracted to the light, tossable fun of this car. I feel like if you’re after a power beast, there are better platforms to start from that will be much more rewarding per dollar spent.

I totally may change my mind when I get there, but I feel like 275whp would really wake this car up without fundamentally changing what it is. I also feel like this is the sweet spot on mods for your money. Past 300 and you start getting diminishing returns, or add too much risk.

DarkPira7e · 07-01-2020, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter

600ish with a Bore/stroked L28TT

Devil-Z....

BRZ_88 · 07-01-2020, 06:20 PM

I'm at 310whp, with 18" x 9.5" rear and 18" x 8" at the front. The wider tires hold the power well and in a car this light the extra power is incredible.

CSG Mike · 07-01-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by solidsnake11

Pretty sure everyone would agree on more power if it was cheap and reliable.

Not if you can't put it down

Decep · 07-01-2020, 07:11 PM

Whatever the hp you have after your most recent power mod, is the perfect amount.. at least for a week or two.

JonAvalon · 07-01-2020, 07:21 PM

- 7 psi turbo on E85
- CSG Spec Tein Flex A Coilovers
- 245/40 tires on 17x9 wheels

That would be the base for my ideal setup and then add any supporting upgrades.

solidsnake11 · 07-01-2020, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Not if you can't put it down

I'm not there yet. Looking forward to it though.

Irace86.2.0 · 07-01-2020, 11:26 PM

I haven’t been in any 86 that was different than mine other than stock cars, so I don’t know what 400whp, 500whp, 600whp, 800whp, 1200whp would feel like, but I know that there are plateaus that are cost prohibitive to me where it becomes more than I want to spend. Over 300tq and the engine needs to be built, and the transmission requires a swap, so forced induction, header, E85 and a clutch is it for me, yet I know there is always an occasion for more power. With that said, depending on your tastes, the extra weight can take away from the light-weight, great-handling experience.

86MLR · 07-02-2020, 12:36 AM

All of the powers

Side · 07-02-2020, 02:54 AM

No more than 300whp for me. Edelbrock supercharger should get me close to 280whp on my setup after tune.

Thefalls · 07-02-2020, 07:32 AM

The perfect amount of power is the amount you can readily use without reaching your limitation as a human/driver.

The moment you cant exploit all the horses you got, thats the no go zone.

07-01-2020, 05:16 PM	#18
pallen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 261 Thanks: 200 Thanked 184 Times in 110 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I definitely think on a car like this you can go too big, for my tastes anyway. As your power goes up you have to start making a lot of modifications to the car - suspension, bigger wheels, racing clutch, transmission, exhaust. Eventually, it starts feeling like a different kind of car. I was attracted to the light, tossable fun of this car. I feel like if you’re after a power beast, there are better platforms to start from that will be much more rewarding per dollar spent. I totally may change my mind when I get there, but I feel like 275whp would really wake this car up without fundamentally changing what it is. I also feel like this is the sweet spot on mods for your money. Past 300 and you start getting diminishing returns, or add too much risk. Last edited by pallen; 07-01-2020 at 05:16 PM. Reason: Spelling

07-01-2020, 07:11 PM	#22
Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Whatever the hp you have after your most recent power mod, is the perfect amount.. at least for a week or two. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

07-01-2020, 07:21 PM	#23
JonAvalon SCBYD0 Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 18 BRZ (WRB) Location: Dallas,TX Posts: 544 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 239 Times in 167 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	- 7 psi turbo on E85 - CSG Spec Tein Flex A Coilovers - 245/40 tires on 17x9 wheels That would be the base for my ideal setup and then add any supporting upgrades. __________________ 04 Scion xA > 13 FR-S stg 2 UEL E85 > 16 WRX stg 1.5 > 15 Audi S3 > 18 BRZ Limited UEL E85

07-01-2020, 11:26 PM	#25
Irace86.2.0 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 7,884 Thanks: 5,668 Thanked 5,805 Times in 3,299 Posts Mentioned: 70 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I haven’t been in any 86 that was different than mine other than stock cars, so I don’t know what 400whp, 500whp, 600whp, 800whp, 1200whp would feel like, but I know that there are plateaus that are cost prohibitive to me where it becomes more than I want to spend. Over 300tq and the engine needs to be built, and the transmission requires a swap, so forced induction, header, E85 and a clutch is it for me, yet I know there is always an occasion for more power. With that said, depending on your tastes, the extra weight can take away from the light-weight, great-handling experience. __________________ My Build \| K24 Turbo Swap \| K24T BRZ SOLD

07-02-2020, 12:36 AM	#26
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	All of the powers __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

07-01-2020, 03:03 PM	#17
x808drifter LMGTFY Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 13 FRS, 91 Miata Location: Lava Town, HI Posts: 2,776 Thanks: 5,561 Thanked 3,646 Times in 1,625 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	600ish with a Bore/stroked L28TT

07-01-2020, 06:20 PM	#20
BRZ_88 Imperator Join Date: May 2020 Drives: Supercharged 2013 BRZ Limited Location: Minnesota Posts: 38 Thanks: 19 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm at 310whp, with 18" x 9.5" rear and 18" x 8" at the front. The wider tires hold the power well and in a car this light the extra power is incredible.

07-02-2020, 02:54 AM	#27
Side Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2018 BRZ tS Location: Washington Posts: 212 Thanks: 314 Thanked 114 Times in 69 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No more than 300whp for me. Edelbrock supercharger should get me close to 280whp on my setup after tune.

07-02-2020, 07:32 AM	#28
Thefalls Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: Corolla GT Location: Sunny place. Posts: 208 Thanks: 371 Thanked 118 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The perfect amount of power is the amount you can readily use without reaching your limitation as a human/driver. The moment you cant exploit all the horses you got, thats the no go zone.

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