2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[FR-Slide]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

That steering wheel is gross. Looks like they're incorporating Bluetooth into it as well. Why keep the stalk cruise then incorporate that in to the wheel as well, lol. When are the actual auto show photos coming out? lol.

Exactly my thoughts. That stalk CC is beyond outdated, even on the first gens. But what's even more hilarious is that the entire right side of the wheel in that picture has un-used real estate where CC ShOULD go. They crammed all of the audio controls on the left side, and the right is just an empty shell. Terrible planning.

Also, in an unrelated note, I guess this rules out any fog lights/auxiliary lighting on the front bumper? Do those ducts actually DO anything, or just take up space that we could use for brake/oil cooling, fog lamps, etc?

[Asterisked Accolade]

To me, the front-end is fantastically ugly. Like, really bad. And i don't really see any big change in the rear bumper. I like the new rear tails. The wheels are just as ghastly as before, though. I still want an early FR-S; hopefully this new one will help speed up the old one's depreciation.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by akyp

Disappointed they got rid of the character line that runs from the chin up the front fenders. IMO it's one of the most distinctive elements of the exterior design which has been there since the first concept.


Agree with others about the rear bumper. Strangely enough I didn't notice that but once seen, cannot be unseen.

Wheels are meh. Again prefer the current ones.

Oh and someone sent me a shot of the new steering wheel. Are you ready?
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Toyota has usually done decent jobs on refreshes but I guess this isn't one of them! Though what can one expect with cars like the new Prius.

Also that Picture for the interior steering wheel might not be for us in the USA. Also I might me but I don't mind the tear duct are gone.From press release,

"The interior also features the 86 logo on the new "Grandlux" material used on the instrument panel surround. The same material adds a new, soft feel to the door trim. Drivers also will enjoy new seating material with silver stitching and a sporty steering wheel with integrated audio controls and an 86 logo on the center hub."

We're suppose to get an 86 LOGO one like they usually do in Japan, the Toyota Logo isn't for every country, also that might not even be the steering wheel for it,so wait for more info before passing Judgement.

[BWilky]

I agree, the steering wheel looks ugly. I know a lot of reviews wanted steering wheel controls for radio as many other sub-$30k cars have them.

[Tcoat]

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by JimR

BREAKING NEWS from Toyota:

I want a pizza storm to go please

[Big D Design]

I think the new gearing will allow 2nd gear to hit 60 mph for bragging rights of a faster 0 to 60 time. When the car was released, some wouldn't buy it for those numbers. I could be wrong but a slight gear ratio change could send the car into a number that is quite a few tenths lower than now.

I think the original '13 FRS has the most oversteer built into it. For me, that is a really good thing, and the 1st thing I noticed about the car. I bet the new Toyota model will have such neutral handling that oversteer is taken out of the equation. Some of us will like that and others will not. I'm so happy for my '13 having exactly the tools to drive how I like to. I'm sure the car won't be ruined by Toyota, but the price (I think) will go up a few thousand. And if it doesn't, the dealer will pad the car with extras or that silly thing where the car is just too popular to sell at the list price. Sheet, I paid $5k over to be the 1st on the block for my Red Manual FRS. Didn't see another one for 6 months though on the road.

This is good news for all us owners. The car hasn't really changed that much and it will keep the value of us Scion owners well into the mix of resale value. Dealer offered me $17,500 and they sell them now used for $21,000 or more. I expect that to continue for quite a few years at that price for one in pristine condition. This car is still the most fun with actual utility for 2 people that I know of. Peace

[jvincent]

The pissing and moaning in this thread is hilarious.

[D_Thissen]

The '86' logo on the side reminds me a lot of the 'Z' logo on the 350z and 370z and the grill looks a lot like the one on the new corolla and camry. I'm glad I have my '13 FRS to look at everyday.

[NahumCC]

Originally Posted by FR-Slide

Exactly my thoughts. That stalk CC is beyond outdated, even on the first gens. But what's even more hilarious is that the entire right side of the wheel in that picture has un-used real estate where CC ShOULD go. They crammed all of the audio controls on the left side, and the right is just an empty shell. Terrible planning.

Not really if you think about it. They probably put everything on the left side of the wheel presuming that someone driving a manual where this car is meant to shine would be to busy with their hand on the shifter to use controls on the right side of the wheel.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I am still baffled as to why they have not introduced a TRD SC or something like they did with the tC for this car. A factory authorized add on would go a long way to appeasing at least some of the more power guys and not drive the price up at all for the rest.

I think GRM performance parts will be put out there. They have great upgrades for the 86 and would be great.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by jvincent

The pissing and moaning in this thread is hilarious.

You should have been around for when the BRZ came out lol almost turned into a civil war.

[eFRS]

Like everyone else, I'm not feeling the front bumper.

I'm happy with my Scion!

[D88]

It looks so similar to the existing car that, to me, these changes make zero difference. I predict a price increase which is unappealing to an already overpriced car but perhaps I will be wrong.

I'm really looking forward to a future side by side comparison particularly to see what the increased horsepower/torque and gearing ratios bring to the table.