How many is too many??

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Lol bruh, you are WAY too dense. It's a joke.

I got the attempt at humor, so it wasn't that I was being stupid. I just often prefer to respond in a literal way in spite of what is obvious, since my response may add to the topic in a constructive way, and I didn't acknowledge the humor or retort with a joke back because I wasn't in a mood to be amused or to be funny, but I'll make an effort to at least throw up a hahaha next time, so people know I recognized the attempt.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I gave up a while ago. My toaster has a better sense of humor.

Hahaha.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Hahaha.

He wasn't joking!

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I got the attempt at humor, so it wasn't that I was being stupid. I just often prefer to respond in a literal way in spite of what is obvious, since my response may add to the topic in a constructive way, and I didn't acknowledge the humor or retort with a joke back because I wasn't in a mood to be amused or to be funny, but I'll make an effort to at least throw up a hahaha next time, so people know I recognized the attempt.

That's the best part about the internet and digital responses; you can wait till you're in a better mood to respond or completely ignore it all!

[weederr33]

Anyway, to OP:
You should be fine. Like many other threads and people say, a good tune and supporting mods will go a long way for the longevity of the motor. That and not going bonkers for power or torque.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

He wasn't joking!

Hahaha

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by weederr33

That's the best part about the internet and digital responses; you can wait till you're in a better mood to respond or completely ignore it all!

Or free country, so I can respond however I want and not in a way that you want or expect. Weird concept?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by weederr33

That and not going bonkers for power or torque.

There is ALWAYS an increase in risk when boosting an engine designed for NA.
That risk increases considerably the higher boost you apply.
That risk increases moderately if the engine was not well maintained or previously beat on no matter how few miles and regardless of boost level.
That risk increases slightly if the engine is high miles but well maintained and not already baffed out.
The risk of going high boost with a beat to crap engine is probably not acceptable to many people.
The risk of going moderate boost with a good engine (no matter how many miles) likely is.
It all boils down to individual acceptance of risk.

[Irace86.2.0]

Sometimes NA engines do really well with boost. A turbo engine might have lower compression for knock resistance, stronger rods for the extra torque and smaller intakes for faster spool, which all sounds good for boost, but then the manufacturer is also trying to use a small turbo with low end torque. These turbo engines don’t rev out well because they weren’t designed to breathe well, and they still have similar limitations on adding more power; their rods will still buckle when 50-100% more torque is applied. For instance, the 1.5T in the Civic Si is a boosted motor with similar horsepower to the 86, but aftermarket power is typically limited to 300whp, where the 86 is closer to 350whp, so is the FA20D a better boosted motor? Not necessarily. Just saying.

The advantage of our higher compression motor and NA/high revving engine is a JRSC is well realized, where the top end torque delivery would be wasted on a low revving, small port turbo engine. The thing to limit is the delta (change in torque) and keep the effective compression ratio below the limit and to do a conservative tune on E85. Or do what I did and throw caution to the wind and flirt with the limit. Boost can be addictive.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Or free country, so I can respond however I want and not in a way that you want or expect. Weird concept?

Lol whatever dude. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Sometimes NA engines do really well with boost. A turbo engine might have lower compression for knock resistance, stronger rods for the extra torque and smaller intakes for faster spool, which all sounds good for boost, but then the manufacturer is also trying to use a small turbo with low end torque. These turbo engines don’t rev out well because they weren’t designed to breathe well, and they still have similar limitations on adding more power; their rods will still buckle when 50-100% more torque is applied. For instance, the 1.5T in the Civic Si is a boosted motor with similar horsepower to the 86, but aftermarket power is typically limited to 300whp, where the 86 is closer to 350whp, so is the FA20D a better boosted motor? Not necessarily. Just saying.

The advantage of our higher compression motor and NA/high revving engine is a JRSC is well realized, where the top end torque delivery would be wasted on a low revving, small port turbo engine. The thing to limit is the delta (change in torque) and keep the effective compression ratio below the limit and to do a conservative tune on E85. Or do what I did and throw caution to the wind and flirt with the limit. Boost can be addictive.

That is factually incorrect.

[spcmafia]

It is never too late, or too early to add more power to any engine. Is the underlying conditions for one. Have you been punctual on your maintenance, are you pedal-happy, do you have the money for supporting mods, is it legal in your state. Second thing is purposes, is it for a track focused build, daily. Third, are you willing to accept the risk factors when it comes to boosting. In practical terms, literally any engine can have a turbo/SC added to it, for how long it will hold is a different thing. This goes with how well you take care of the vehicle. Adding more power to an NA engine, even if it has been "proven" that internals can handle it, still contains a level of risk, is like driving a bomb on wheels, you can delay it, but the trigger is still there.

If you are willing to accept the risk you'll be taking, and have the financial backup to address those issues when the time comes, then go ahead. There are ways to mitigate the risk, or delay future problems, just make sure you do the proper research regarding supporting mods and maintenance. Once all your bases are covered, go ahead and fulfill your goals.

We have several build threads with almost every boosting product out there so make sure you visit them. You are already well on your way because at least you're asking questions.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Lol whatever dude. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

It isn’t about feeling better because I never felt worse, if that makes sense. I’m not too concerned with sensitive types. I just felt like responding literally because it added to the topic. But I’ll try: Sorry if that hurt your feelings not getting your joke acknowledged or me responding in a way that was in any way different than what you were expecting or hoping for. **Sad face**

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by weederr33

That is factually incorrect.

Ok