Which entry level turbo kit is the most responsive?

[bfrank1972]

I know I'm not supposed to go there, but.... if transient response is paramount then you really need to consider something else. Maybe something that rhymes with bloopercharger.

[Jrdad]

Originally Posted by ShadowReaper

The only thing with SBD is i don't believe they have a ball bearing option. JDL does.

SBD offers an upgrade for $500 that gives you a GTX3076r vs the journal bearing 20G in the base kit.

[Matt@Cosworth]

anyone do twin scroll setup? these tend to spool a goodly amount before a single

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by Matt@Cosworth

anyone do twin scroll setup? these tend to spool a goodly amount before a single

JDL has one: https://jdlautodesign.net/shop/ft86-...oll-turbo-kit/

Haven't seen much talk about it on these forums though.

[Keenercarguy]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

JDL has one: https://jdlautodesign.net/shop/ft86-...oll-turbo-kit/

Haven't seen much talk about it on these forums though.

Yeah and big moneyyyy, at that point the edlebrock supercharger is attainable.

[Matt@Cosworth]

I'm not surprised its expensive, 2 wastegates?
I know its relatively new tech but still

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by Keenercarguy

Yeah and big moneyyyy, at that point the edlebrock supercharger is attainable.

Not really... I think people are just too used to the GReddy replica kit (SBD).

Also, why compare the Edelbrock when its a SC?

[Keenercarguy]

Just because once that price range is broken into (4.5K+) there's nothing that beats the Edlebrock in my opinion. I just neither need that much headroom, nor want to sink that much into any forced induction. I'd rather spend the difference in price on supporting mods to add reliability instead.
Entry level is my price range. If I could have any turbo kit it'd probably be the twin scroll JDL though.

[bfrank1972]

If I were you and I were hooked on turbo at entry level price, I'd probably go with the SBD kit, maybe with a couple minor upgrades. The design is similar to Greddy's kit, they both use pretty short piping. The turbo is a base model but response looks to be ok - just keep in mind even the twin scroll kits will have 'laggy' transient response. Heck even OEM engineered BMW & Audi turbo motors with hyper responsive turbo setups have a slightly soggy throttle (IMHO). Not the snappy response of NA or a well tuned supercharged setup.

If you're after throttle response and don't care about mega power, how about one of those Sprintex kits? It's around your price range, will give you the transient throttle response you're looking for, and they sound pretty exotic too

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

If I were you and I were hooked on turbo at entry level price, I'd probably go with the SBD kit, maybe with a couple minor upgrades. The design is similar to Greddy's kit, they both use pretty short piping. The turbo is a base model but response looks to be ok - just keep in mind even the twin scroll kits will have 'laggy' transient response. Heck even OEM engineered BMW & Audi turbo motors with hyper responsive turbo setups have a slightly soggy throttle (IMHO). Not the snappy response of NA or a well tuned supercharged setup.

If you're after throttle response and don't care about mega power, how about one of those Sprintex kits? It's around your price range, will give you the transient throttle response you're looking for, and they sound pretty exotic too

Reliabity is a concern with that SC. Not that it is unreliable but be expected to pay more attention to whats going on and the temps. They sound super cool tho.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Reliabity is a concern with that SC. Not that it is unreliable but be expected to pay more attention to whats going on and the temps. They sound super cool tho.

Hmmm maybe - I kinda feel that way about any FI kit really. They all have their strong points and caveats. If you're street driving, not running the smaller pulleys, and have the intercooler I think results have been solid. Caveat I don't have first hand experience - I know Moto Mike has a ton of experience with these kits, so he might be a good person to reach out to if you're considering this kit (or any for that matter). Cheers

[Brayden_23]

Originally Posted by softgrip

I've got a Garrett gtx2867r. Dyno tuned and 3" exhaust. I put down around 285whp, and the torque and power curves are really smooth.

It's a good amount of power. If it was less, I'd want more, and if it was more I'd shit myself at WOT. Already get to 100kmh(60mph) at the top of 2nd gear (or very close).

Honestly it feels like the right amount of juice.

LOL sorry to burst your bubble bud - everyone can get to 58mph in second gear.

That is a gearing thing and nothing to do with the amount of power you're putting down. The amount of time it takes to get there on the other hand....

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...65&postcount=2

[8RZ]

Not unless he has different sized wheels.

[Xxyion]

I'm going to give you some advice. Try and test drive as many boosted 86's in as many configurations as you can before you settle on a decision. I did most of my research online and asking around and youtube before i settled on the Edelbrock. And let me tell you. I regret it. Not because the kit is bad or anything. The kit is amazing for the cost. Incredibly well built, good reliability, decent headroom for more power. And the most reliable twin screw supercharger out there.

So why dont i like it? It messed with the characteristics with the car too much. The throttle response is so different now. Power delivery is great but i can feel the parasitic load on the engine when i put my foot down. It makes the engine feel "heavier" if that makes any sense. The car doesnt feel like the light nimble thing it used to be.

Moral of the story? Cant beat first hand experience.