What kind of power to expect?

[the_butcher]

I'm seeing all sorts of different numbers coming out, some lower, some higher. I want my car to have at least 275whp... Here's what I'm about to purchase: innovate sc intercooled, 700cc injectors, headers,fx300 clutch, and maybe a cat back. Is this realistic for my goals, or do I need more?

[Raven604]

Fp, op, fuel pump, probably ic or meth, smaller pully.

[jamesm]

you need a turbo if 275whp is your bottom end limit.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by the_butcher

I'm seeing all sorts of different numbers coming out, some lower, some higher. I want my car to have at least 275whp... Here's what I'm about to purchase: innovate sc intercooled, 700cc injectors, headers,fx300 clutch, and maybe a cat back. Is this realistic for my goals, or do I need more?

A turbo would get you there easier than a supercharger.

If you want to get to that number with a twin screw look at Robispec's set up (or give him a call). He is there right now (255 whp on a low reading Dyno Dynamics) but he is using:

E85
Smaller pulley (9-10 psi)
Header
Full exhaust

[mines13]

If you are looking 275whp minimum on pump gasoline a turbo system would suit your needs much better.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by mines13

If you are looking 275whp minimum on pump gasoline a turbo system would suit your needs much better.

You just earned a bit of my refreshing to see a vendor being honest. I do think its possible with puley +E85, Innovate, but yes, minimum is the key word.

[RedLeader]

Like many have said and will say, if big numbers are your thing, go turbo. None of the supercharger kits can compete with the sheer power output of a turbo and a halfway decent tuner.

[mines13]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You just earned a bit of my refreshing to see a vendor being honest. I do think its possible with puley +E85, Innovate, but yes, minimum is the key word.

Appreciated. :happy0180:

There is no one right answer as far as forced induction solutions are concerned. The best option is the one that meets your wants and requirements.

[wrxgoose]

Originally Posted by mines13

If you are looking 275whp minimum on pump gasoline a turbo system would suit your needs much better.

won't stop me from trying!

[the_butcher]

I'm a little worried about overheating with a turbo... Superchargers seem to be the safer route on these cars. Almost every video I've seen of turbo FRS, has ended with the car overheating after a few laps. This is going to be my daily, so reliability is a major concern. I think I'll just get the fuel pump as well and hope for at least 250whp. Kind of sad that 10k invested isn't even going to reach 300. I put 5k into my gsx, and it was a monster. Should of bought the evo :/

[Gen]

From what I'm seeing, on 91 octane the turbos are very close to the superchargers. On 93 and particularly E85, the gap widens.

With a turbo, a koyo radiator and a 25 row oil cooler, my car will still get hot in traffic, but so far I have not overheated. It survived the drive out to Vegas in 110+ degrees.

[swift996]

You would likely need E85, intercooler, smaller pulley and a full exhaust to get 275whp and that is a maybe. I think Robi had somewhere around 260 on E85 which are the highest numbers for an innovate kit thus far. Moto-East had 250 on E85 with a stock header (plan to re-dyno with JDL soon). I think it's achievable but you might want to lower your expectations if you plan on the innovate route. It drives great at 237whp. I wanted the same but I can live with what I have. I hope to squeeze out another 20whp or so but we'll see. I just needed more power between turns and usable torque on exit, mission accomplished.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by the_butcher

I'm a little worried about overheating with a turbo... Superchargers seem to be the safer route on these cars. Almost every video I've seen of turbo FRS, has ended with the car overheating after a few laps. This is going to be my daily, so reliability is a major concern. I think I'll just get the fuel pump as well and hope for at least 250whp. Kind of sad that 10k invested isn't even going to reach 300. I put 5k into my gsx, and it was a monster. Should of bought the evo :/

as far as heat is concerned, these cars aren't safe to run on the track stock. if you plan on doing any serious track work, you're going to need an oil cooler. whether na, supercharged or turbocharged it's all the same. more power == more heat and the system can't even take the heat stock.

interestingly my oil temps haven't gone up at all since i added the turbo, but then i haven't been to the track yet. i'm sure it'll overheat when pushed hard enough.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by the_butcher

I'm a little worried about overheating with a turbo... Superchargers seem to be the safer route on these cars. Almost every video I've seen of turbo FRS, has ended with the car overheating after a few laps. This is going to be my daily, so reliability is a major concern. I think I'll just get the fuel pump as well and hope for at least 250whp. Kind of sad that 10k invested isn't even going to reach 300. I put 5k into my gsx, and it was a monster. Should of bought the evo :/

I think you probably should sell the FR-S and just get an Evo. They never overheat and you can make like 600 hp for 10k. How do you figure that 10k invested and you won't reach 300? Superchargers "seem" to be the safer route on these cars eh. So a couple videos showed a couple turbo cars overheating after a few laps, you assume that all cars do it? Have you seen Element Tuning's car? I daily drive my Full Blown car, and I have never overheated. It has never left me stranded. Where are you getting the intercooled Innovate supercharger from by the way?