power steering - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ender2664 · 09-15-2013, 05:46 PM

Anyone deleted the power steering?

Opposed · 09-15-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ender2664

Anyone deleted the power steering?

Not sure the benefit? Its electric assist, not driven by a pump...

Mobius357 · 09-15-2013, 06:43 PM

I really like the steering feel. My wife's legacy has some weird transition points where it feels like the assist changes, feels unnatural. The BRZ feels flawless though, with enough weight to it to make me want both hands on the wheel.

Suberman · 09-15-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ender2664

Anyone deleted the power steering?

Before you do, try steering without it!

Electric power steering doesn't load the engine until you steer and only for as long as you steer. No reason to delete it.

Suberman · 09-15-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mobius357

I really like the steering feel. My wife's legacy has some weird transition points where it feels like the assist changes, feels unnatural. The BRZ feels flawless though, with enough weight to it to make me want both hands on the wheel.

Subaru did a truly genius job on the power assist. It feels almost as good as the very best hydraulic system out there, ZF servotronic.

ender2664 · 09-15-2013, 07:44 PM

I prefer not having power steering. I took it out of my crx, dart, mustang, camaro and firebird. I am well aware of what it feels like to drive a car without power steering, but thank you for the concern.
I am guessing since no one answered the question that was asked that the answer was no.

Hardrock4445 · 09-15-2013, 07:48 PM

Probably can just pull a fuse? No? Would Just have a light on on the dash.

ender2664 · 09-15-2013, 08:17 PM

Ill try that and see how it works.

Burrcold · 09-15-2013, 08:20 PM

Curious as to why you want to?

stockysnail · 09-15-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

Curious as to why you want to?

'cause racecar.

Lotus Elises don't have power steering so why not our lightweight cars as well?

448hpsti · 09-15-2013, 10:54 PM

Because the rack on a lotus was designed to be manual, ours was not

This seems silly, are you trying to save weight, is that it?

Captain Snooze · 09-15-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail

'cause racecar.

Lotus Elises don't have power steering so why not our lightweight cars as well?

If it is a race car there may be benefits but if it is still being used as a road car have you tried steering the car without power? I find it physically challenging to do so at low speed. Ymmv.

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Originally Posted by 448hpsti

Because the rack on a lotus was designed to be manual, ours was not

This.

Mitch · 09-15-2013, 11:52 PM

Lotus has a very light font end, and I'm sure the rack ratio and steering wheel diameter are paired with a non-power rack in mind. Want stiffer steering? Get wider tires up front.

Anthony · 09-16-2013, 12:18 AM

I'd be interested in deleting it if it saved weight AND didn't hurt the car. I have no clue how the system works or is set up in this car though. But I feel like removing it would probably be a bad thing. But I really don't know.

If anyone wants to explain or provide a link to a good resource that explains how it works, feel free. I'm not interested enough to search, but I'm always open to spoon-fed information. OP and others may benefit too.

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ender2664 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Southern CA Posts: 44 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	power steering Anyone deleted the power steering?

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Hardrock4445 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Syracuse Posts: 719 Thanks: 274 Thanked 277 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Probably can just pull a fuse? No? Would Just have a light on on the dash. __________________ Mods: Perrin CAI, JDL EL header, DC sports Catless front pipe, top speed auto pro-1 cat-back, H&R sport line springs, Headlight blackout, "Demon eyes"

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Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Curious as to why you want to? __________________

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Mobius357 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: '15 WRX '13 Legacy '07 Colorado Location: Seacoast NH Posts: 337 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really like the steering feel. My wife's legacy has some weird transition points where it feels like the assist changes, feels unnatural. The BRZ feels flawless though, with enough weight to it to make me want both hands on the wheel.

09-15-2013, 07:44 PM	#6
ender2664 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Southern CA Posts: 44 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I prefer not having power steering. I took it out of my crx, dart, mustang, camaro and firebird. I am well aware of what it feels like to drive a car without power steering, but thank you for the concern. I am guessing since no one answered the question that was asked that the answer was no.

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ender2664 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Southern CA Posts: 44 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ill try that and see how it works.

09-15-2013, 10:54 PM	#11
448hpsti In Test:Oil Fed SC Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Vortech Prototype Test Car Location: Hotter than where you are Posts: 355 Thanks: 156 Thanked 142 Times in 89 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Because the rack on a lotus was designed to be manual, ours was not This seems silly, are you trying to save weight, is that it?

09-15-2013, 11:52 PM	#13
Mitch form follows function Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: RIP '13 BRZ Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 688 Thanks: 42 Thanked 234 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lotus has a very light font end, and I'm sure the rack ratio and steering wheel diameter are paired with a non-power rack in mind. Want stiffer steering? Get wider tires up front.

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