2017 fa20 engine into 2013 car? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Totalrecall · 04-18-2018, 12:42 AM

I enjoyed this thread. 10/10

D-VO · 06-29-2018, 10:40 PM

I just finished installing the 2017 engine into my 2013. Tried to start the car a few times but no go. I just started researching and found this thread. Dammit... I'm hoping an ECU swap for the 2017 one would work.

steve99 · 06-29-2018, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by D-VO

I just finished installing the 2017 engine into my 2013. Tried to start the car a few times but no go. I just started researching and found this thread. Dammit... I'm hoping an ECU swap for the 2017 one would work.

You dont need to swap ecu all same hardware and 2017 ecu program not compatable with older security system

What codes if any is ecu throwing, do you have your original 2013 rom in ecu , if you flashed it eith 2017 rom security will likey lock out, flash back the 2013, they usually tgrow some codes related to imobiliser if this occurred you will need to loop pins 4 to 13 on obd for more than 30 minutes with ignition on to resync ecu to security

D-VO · 06-30-2018, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by steve99

You dont need to swap ecu all same hardware and 2017 ecu program not compatable with older security system

What codes if any is ecu throwing, do you have your original 2013 rom in ecu , if you flashed it eith 2017 rom security will likey lock out, flash back the 2013, they usually tgrow some codes related to imobiliser if this occurred you will need to loop pins 4 to 13 on obd for more than 30 minutes with ignition on to resync ecu to security

Oh hey Steve. I didn't realize you answered me here already. No I still have the 2013 ROM loaded. I haven't had a chance to read any codes yet. I'm gonna see if I can find someone with a code reader.

steve99 · 06-30-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by D-VO

Oh hey Steve. I didn't realize you answered me here already. No I still have the 2013 ROM loaded. I haven't had a chance to read any codes yet. I'm gonna see if I can find someone with a code reader.

If you got a tactrix cavle just download techstream, you dont need any drivers like vci as you can jist get techstream to use the tactrix drivers already loaded if you have used tactrix on same computer

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35530

When you say wont start does it crank ? And is your car key or push button start

Packofcrows · 06-30-2018, 12:48 PM

Aside from the arguments, really informative thread. Thanks.

D-VO · 06-30-2018, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by steve99

If you got a tactrix cavle just download techstream, you dont need any drivers like vci as you can jist get techstream to use the tactrix drivers already loaded if you have used tactrix on same computer

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35530

When you say wont start does it crank ? And is your car key or push button start

It cranks just doesn't start. Mine is key.

steve99 · 07-01-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by D-VO

It cranks just doesn't start. Mine is key.

See if you can log rpm when its cranking if not check crank sensor

D-VO · 07-02-2018, 08:03 AM

That techstream site is dead. Oh well. I have to find my tactrix connector before I do anything else.

D-VO · 07-04-2018, 12:34 AM

@steve99 Ok, just checked for codes today. It is a P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A circuit malfunction. My concern is that I don't want my car to end up like the one mentioned in this thread. I wonder if there's a way to change it in the ROM and not brick the ECU instead of having to take the tranny out.

JimmyMac · 07-04-2018, 02:15 AM

Which sensor and sensor wheel did you use? The newer 2017 or your old 2013 one?

D-VO · 07-04-2018, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyMac

Which sensor and sensor wheel did you use? The newer 2017 or your old 2013 one?

The 2017 one is in there now along with the 17' crank trigger wheel. All the sensors and wire harness are from the 17'. I had to swap the alternator to the 13' though because the connector for it was on the main harness.

JimmyMac · 07-04-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by D-VO

The 2017 one is in there now along with the 17' crank trigger wheel. All the sensors and wire harness are from the 17'. I had to swap the alternator to the 13' though because the connector for it was on the main harness.

So you are using the new wiring harness with the 2013 ecu and drivers (other small computers to run injectors, etc.)?

D-VO · 07-05-2018, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyMac

So you are using the new wiring harness with the 2013 ecu and drivers (other small computers to run injectors, etc.)?

All the factory stuff yep. I have the 2017 Fuel Computer on the engine.

06-29-2018, 10:40 PM	#44
D-VO Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S, Evo 8 RS Location: Kissimmee FL. Posts: 242 Thanks: 131 Thanked 42 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just finished installing the 2017 engine into my 2013. Tried to start the car a few times but no go. I just started researching and found this thread. Dammit... I'm hoping an ECU swap for the 2017 one would work. __________________

06-30-2018, 12:48 PM	#48
Packofcrows hey you, yeah you <3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2014 37J FR-S Location: Monterey County, CA Posts: 2,713 Thanks: 905 Thanked 1,258 Times in 809 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Aside from the arguments, really informative thread. Thanks. __________________ Got my TRD wheels and TRD louvers. Thanks!!!

07-02-2018, 08:03 AM	#51
D-VO Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S, Evo 8 RS Location: Kissimmee FL. Posts: 242 Thanks: 131 Thanked 42 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That techstream site is dead. Oh well. I have to find my tactrix connector before I do anything else. __________________

07-04-2018, 12:34 AM	#52
D-VO Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S, Evo 8 RS Location: Kissimmee FL. Posts: 242 Thanks: 131 Thanked 42 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@steve99 Ok, just checked for codes today. It is a P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A circuit malfunction. My concern is that I don't want my car to end up like the one mentioned in this thread. I wonder if there's a way to change it in the ROM and not brick the ECU instead of having to take the tranny out. __________________ Last edited by D-VO; 07-04-2018 at 01:32 AM. Reason: added info

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