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Rampage · 10-19-2017, 03:28 PM

Score one for the good guys!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/rese...Bnb7Kz#image=3

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One of the 10 most reliable cars!
3/11 SLIDES © Provided by Consumer Reports
SUBARU BRZ/TOYOTA 86
Price as tested: $27,117/$25,025
Developed with Toyota, Subaru’s first rear-wheel-drive sports car features a 2.0-liter four-cylinder with a choice of a six-speed manual or an automatic. Handling is super-responsive, with cornering precision that makes the BRZ fun to drive. The car turns in promptly, with almost no body lean. The steering is quick and well-weighted. At its limits, the BRZ is slightly more forgiving than its mechanical sibling, the Toyota 86 (the old Scion FR-S). That difference makes the BRZ less prone to sliding its tail during spirited driving. The ride is also a bit more jittery than in the FR-S. The cabin is relatively plain, with well-bolstered sport seats, but the ride and elevated noise can be taxing.

Tcoat · 10-19-2017, 03:40 PM

Except that they missed the fact that the 86 now has the exact same suspension set up. There should no longer be any difference at all.

funwheeldrive · 10-19-2017, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Except that they missed the fact that the 86 now has the exact same suspension set up. There should no longer be any difference at all.

The picture they used is the BRZ with PP. You could argue that's what they were comparing to the 86. I doubt that's the case though.

Tcoat · 10-19-2017, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The picture they used is the BRZ with PP. You could argue that's what they were comparing to the 86. I doubt that's the case though.

Even less accurate then since they don't state that. Not sure what any of the write up has to do with reliability as per the title anyway.

venturaII · 10-19-2017, 04:25 PM

The suspensions are identical now (aside from the PP package)? I knew they'd changed rates and valving and such, but I assumed they were still distinct for each brand..

funwheeldrive · 10-19-2017, 04:32 PM

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The suspensions are identical now (aside from the PP package)? I knew they'd changed rates and valving and such, but I assumed they were still distinct for each brand..

They have been identical since MY15 IIRC.

PetrolioBenzina · 10-19-2017, 04:44 PM

The same consumer reports who said it sucked? Perhaps they should have waited a bit for some data.

nextcar · 10-19-2017, 05:10 PM

Don't forget the ten LEAST reliable cars too!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/rese...Bnb7Kz#image=2

TwistedGray · 10-19-2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nextcar

Don't forget the ten LEAST reliable cars too!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/rese...Bnb7Kz#image=2

I wouldn't have anticipated both Ford (sub)compacts in that list, hmmmm.

Summerwolf · 10-19-2017, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedGray

I wouldn't have anticipated both Ford (sub)compacts in that list, hmmmm.

Sarcasm?

funwheeldrive · 10-19-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedGray

I wouldn't have anticipated both Ford (sub)compacts in that list, hmmmm.

I'm not sure about the standard models, but I don't hear great things about the ST brothers and the new Focus RS. I wouldn't really consider buying any turbocharged Ford to be honest.

KalbiCool88 · 10-19-2017, 07:30 PM

You technically don't really need such articles since you can just refer to threads here in the forums. Looking through the forums is an easy way to learn of common failures of a car.

Tcoat · 10-19-2017, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KalbiCool88

You technically don't really need such articles since you can just refer to threads here in the forums. Looking through the forums is an easy way to learn of common failures of a car.

It ia also a lot Really, really good way to think that so,thing that is actually really rare is common. A handful of complaints can look like the sky is falling. The demographics are too close and the sample size too small to really get an accurate overview of what the "common" issues are.

new2subaru · 10-19-2017, 09:07 PM

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