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Old 01-30-2020, 10:15 PM   #65843
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I feel like they just sort of jumped to the first wrong thing

That's exactly what they did and it's typical. They would've disconnected the battery to break open the fuel circuit so your ECU is still relearning. They're either stupid, or lazy.
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:17 PM   #65844
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So if anyone wanted to know what passes for a legit stop sign in York, PA. Here ya go.
Lol of course they would...

Now go find one of them dead poles the utilities leave hanging for months...

Or better yet, the original plan/budget for the Mt Rose exit and what it looks like now.
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:20 PM   #65845
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Kinked line has a low but significant risk of failing (cracking). Blaming it for your engine trouble is complete bullshit.
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That's exactly what they did and it's typical. They would've disconnected the battery to break open the fuel circuit so your ECU is still relearning. They're either stupid, or lazy.
I like you, you're like a xenon headlight shining through the murky brown bullshit seawater of dealership lies.
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:23 PM   #65846
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Wait. Your downstream O2 sensor was plugged in properly, right? I haven't looked up the codes.
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:26 PM   #65848
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Wait. Your downstream O2 sensor was plugged in properly, right? I haven't looked up the codes.
I didn’t check it myself but I’d assume so. Only code I saw was the cylinder misfire one. Nothing else.
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It sounds to me like the delicate, metallic sounds of piston skirts slapping against the cylinder walls
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Now, if it was three feet long and you were using all that leverage
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I didn’t check it myself but I’d assume so. Only code I saw was the cylinder misfire one. Nothing else.
Ok, yeah. NVM
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I didn’t check it myself but I’d assume so. Only code I saw was the cylinder misfire one. Nothing else.
So you have attempted to investigate common ignition problems like coils, plugs, and wires/grounding straps right?

I can't remember what you have tried so far... Sorry
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this sounds correct by my math. i don't see how it could draw 55-60A without more heating panels in the circuit. my calculation for 8 2100w heating panels in a 480v circuit puts estimated draw at 36A--almost exactly what you're getting.



at 4.4A each, it would need 14 panels to hit that magical 60A mark. which almost sounds to me like he's referencing the wrong model heater...



is there a spec sheet for the coils that show the active panel resistance values?


I can find out. Every time I ask the manufacturer a question he has to ask the guy that supply’s him his resistor wire. He’s been forwarding me these emails so now I have that guys contact info. I am going to reach out to that guy in the AM for more detailed specs. The wattage numbers they are giving me are way off what I’ve calculated based on draw , resistance, and known voltage. They are saying 4200 watts for the entire section I have marked in highlighter.

Thank you for the help gentleman.
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that doesn't sound like a very intelligent company...

for big industrial equipment, i would expect better documentation/service than that..
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Old 01-30-2020, 11:13 PM   #65853
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I absolutely LOVE being schooled when I'm wrong.
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I absolutely LOVE being schooled when I'm wrong.


Me too. It’s the primary way I learn shit lol.
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Old 01-30-2020, 11:18 PM   #65855
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Sooo I just got back home with my car in hand.


So what happened was they disconnected the fuel line from the FF kit (kept it mounted in the engine bay but that’s all), put fuel line back to factory connections. Did a test drive. No more misfire or CEL.

So they basically blamed the kink in the line.

I’m not sure how it would be at fault except maybe it created a partial blockage and if any gunk got trapped there maybe it would’ve caused more issues? But the misfire and rough idle happened pretty much only below 2k rpm.

@Ultramaroon / @Tcoat / @humfrz I realize I’m talking out of my ass but does that theory sound at all possible?
Well, first off, congratulations on getting your car running right again.

Usually, a kink in a fuel line would effect the performance of an engine at higher RPMs before it would effect the lower RPMs.

I don't know where the kink in the fuel line was, but if it was also a break and in the wrong place, it might have been that the fuel system was "sucking air".

Maybe it was "vapor locking" and rerouting of the fuel line broke the vapor lock?

(oh, hush up humfrz and drift back into the 50s)

In summary, if your car continues to run good, I'd suggest you adopt the old humfrz philosophy "don't worry bout it until if or when it don't run so good no more".


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So you have attempted to investigate common ignition problems like coils, plugs, and wires/grounding straps right?

I can't remember what you have tried so far... Sorry
No worries.

Supposedly the original shop checked the spark plugs at the time, no obvious problems. Also brought the car to a 2nd shop a couple months ago and they checked spark plugs, coil packs, and vacuum lines. No obvious issues.

Dealer also supposedly checked spark plugs at least, did a leak test.

But I’m starting to think they only touched the flex fuel kit. Because yesterday I was told that they only had time to check the fuel lines but those didn’t have an issue. Then today they suddenly notice a kink...in the same lines they checked and said were fine yesterday?? Or maybe yesterday they only checked the OEM lines??

And just from that they determined that’s the issue? Other than the leak test?

I’m not 100% confident at all.

I’m assuming they unplugged the battery connections. So... is the issue going to come back once things are done recalibrating?

The advisor did say if the issue came back he wouldn’t charge me again if I bring it in.

But if it gets bad like the other day then I’d have to tow it again, and that was an expensive as fuck tow because I decided to have the dealer I slightly trust check it out over the one I’ve heard horror stories about in SJ... but that meant a longer tow than AAA would pay for.

Anyway sorry to keep this dumb topic going guys.
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