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Tcoat · 05-12-2018, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

Except I think they would rather steal sales from another company rather than themselves.

I don't think it's going to have the performance or lineage for the name sake. Like, it probably needs to be faster than a camaro but it won't be.

Depending on the version of each I am not sure that it was faster than a Camaro back then either.
Agreed it is a Supra in name only. The marketing of the name is just too good for them to pass up.

funwheeldrive · 05-12-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

Except I think they would rather steal sales from another company rather than themselves.

I don't think it's going to have the performance or lineage for the name sake. Like, it probably needs to be faster than a camaro but it won't be.

At least it will be smaller and more attractive than the Camaro. Have you seen that thing???

Yoshoobaroo · 05-12-2018, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

At least it will be smaller and more attractive than the Camaro. Have you seen that thing???

GM designers can't draw a good looking Chevy to save their life. Even the Corvette looks childish and overdone.

Summerwolf · 05-12-2018, 10:07 AM

Just keep waiting for the final announcements. I'm definitely trying to add another fun car to the stable. This would be something unique.

Summerwolf · 05-12-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

GM designers can't draw a good looking Chevy to save their life. Even the Corvette looks childish and overdone.

That's hilarious.

Jegan_V · 05-12-2018, 10:27 AM

No for two reasons,

1. I like the manual transmission, since going from auto to manual...I feel no desire to return to the point I want any future vehicle in my life to only have manuals. I've driven all the different auto types from standard auto, CVT and dual clutch...wasn't satisfied with any of them. All of them continuously keep getting better, but the lack of visceral feeling in any of them is enough for me to not buy. To me paddle shifters is the equivalent of playing Gran Turismo in manual mode, I don't find much joy in that...and actually play those games in auto.

2. Money. Zero chance this Supra is going to be inexpensive on multiple fronts. Its not going to be cheap to buy, its not going to be cheap to repair, its not going to be cheap to run. I liked the 86 in big part because it was very economical despite putting far more emphasis on fun. My fuel bills are shockingly stable compared to any of my colleagues who suffer greatly to any fuel price increase.

I'm not against getting a used Supra sometime in my life. Which gen I get does make a big difference, Mk II I'd probably keep stock as I'm nostalgic for the 5M-GE, weak in today's age but will rekindle some memories, I'm definitely a sucker for nostalgia. Mk III I'd likely toss the 7M to go 1JZ, which version I haven't thought that out as thoroughly and so something about making it handle good despite its weight. Mk IV...I'd find a TT and keep it stock as well, potentially minor handling improvements.

Not phased one bit by the new Supra's entry. We'll have to see how it truly is for me to even get excited about, but for me the 86 fit my criteria almost too perfectly. Anything I don't like about it I can change it relatively inexpensively...which is why I changed out the horn pretty quickly. Any quibbles I have with the interior, I can change out on my own leisure.

fatoni · 05-12-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

At least it will be smaller and more attractive than the Camaro. Have you seen that thing???

while that is true, we already have cheaper, slower cars. i dont see the draw to a more expensive slower car. which is a shame because im sure im not the only one who grew up lusting after the mkiv.

Praetendere · 05-12-2018, 02:43 PM

Torque converter huh. That's not real appealing.

Dadhawk · 05-12-2018, 03:00 PM

The more I read about the Supra the more it seems like its a Toyota in badge only. That's OK, obviously I drive something similar, but it just seems like poor homage to the Supra brand.

adprokid · 05-12-2018, 04:28 PM

Not interested in bmw's.

Tcoat · 05-12-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by adprokid

Not interested in bmw's.

I was never interested in Subarus but bought an Scion FRS which is really a Toyota which is actually a Subaru.
Damn no wonder people get confused when I try to explain what the thing is.

funwheeldrive · 05-12-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

while that is true, we already have cheaper, slower cars. i dont see the draw to a more expensive slower car. which is a shame because im sure im not the only one who grew up lusting after the mkiv.

The world has plenty of big, fast, heavy cars.

I know the Supra won't be the size of a Miata, but it will be smaller than the pony cars and hopefully a couple hundred pounds lighter.

chaoskaze · 05-12-2018, 06:05 PM

Toyota name with bmw reliablity. maybe not.

Captain Snooze · 05-12-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Praetendere

Torque converter huh. That's not real appealing.

From the little I have read about modern autos with torque converters they are the equal of DSGs.

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