(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

I would imagine the issue lies with the longitudinal engine layout for a RWD.

Uhh which way do you think a Subaru engine runs?

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

I would imagine the issue lies with the longitudinal engine layout for a RWD. The limitations of the engine position in the Twins should highlight the problem (with regard to the steering rack interfering with the engine, forcing it to be more forward than would have been ideal - there are a good 4 inches of space between the engine/trans and the firewall). A transverse AWD layout doesn't automatically mean easy longitudinal RWD conversion (although it would definitely be easier than a transverse FWD platform, as proven by the Twins).

Are you talking about the Subaru platform with this?

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Uhh which way do you think a Subaru engine runs?

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

Are you talking about the Subaru platform with this?

LOL, now I feel silly. I assumed regular Subaru's run transverse, guess I was wrong Thanks for the correction.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

I would imagine the issue lies with the longitudinal engine layout for a RWD. The limitations of the engine position in the Twins should highlight the problem (with regard to the steering rack interfering with the engine, forcing it to be more forward than would have been ideal - there are a good 4 inches of space between the engine/trans and the firewall). A transverse AWD layout doesn't automatically mean easy longitudinal RWD conversion (although it would definitely be easier than a transverse FWD platform, as proven by the Twins).



Well, the TNGA does support both transverse and longitudinal engines, so yes, that would make more sense (despite the longitudinal support being only for the larger versions of it).

4 inches?




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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

4 inches?
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[86MLR]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

4 inches?




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Yeap, and it's not like workshops, mechanics and general hacks have been putting in IL4, V8, V10, V12 and even rotories, some with turbos and/or superchargers in the belly of the twins.

Toyota could easily supply an engine to Subaru.

That is what I would be pushing towards the "sports coupe" fan club, Subaru will do what Toyota wants in the end, wether it is for financial reasons or not, Subaru is really only a little fish in the pond, backed, and kept afloat, by Toyota.

But then I am jaded on the boxer lay out, simple things are problematic, its engine out to pull the heads.

I believe I have had the best Subarus anyway, a WRX STI and a "Toyota" 86.

My vote for a powerplant is >
Engine Code
8AR-FTS
Power
180kW @ 5800rpm
Torque
350Nm @ 1650-4000rpm

Make it fit, make it light, make it manual, and I will throw money.

Raindows, lollipops and unicorns......

[Yoshoobaroo]

You cannot put an I4 under this hood without putting a pretty tall bump in it.
Mr. 2JZ swap doesn’t have to adhere to pedestrian safety design rules. Subaru and Toyota sort of do...

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

Yeap, and it's not like workshops, mechanics and general hacks have been putting in IL4, V8, V10, V12 and even rotories, some with turbos and/or superchargers in the belly of the twins.

But then I am jaded on the boxer lay out, simple things are problematic, its engine out to pull the heads.

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Yeah I agree. From what I have read from the Vorshlag V8 swaps, they are able to retain the same weight balance because of how far the stock engine protrudes into the engine bay. I am really not a fan of the boxer layout in general.

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

You cannot put an I4 under this hood without putting a pretty tall bump in it.
Mr. 2JZ swap doesn’t have to adhere to pedestrian safety design rules. Subaru and Toyota sort of do...

So put a bump in the hood.

Simple

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

So put a bump in the hood.

Simple

And move it back 10 inches and cant it ala' Honda.

[ichitaka05]

Top Speed made funny article: https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar188506.html

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Top Speed made funny article: https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar188506.html

Lol.

A slightly updated 1st gen with an NA FA24 is literally music to my ears.

But can we really believe that when insiders have been suggesting the spirit of the car doesn’t carry over to the 2nd gen?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Top Speed made funny article: https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar188506.html

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Lol.

A slightly updated 1st gen with an NA FA24 is literally music to my ears.

But can we really believe that when insiders have been suggesting the spirit of the car doesn’t carry over to the 2nd gen?

This is just another article based on the latest clickbait cycle. Considering that it was the same sites that started the cycle they are now countering it is meaningless drivel.