(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by ZDan

OK, so Civic R type of powerplant. Surely doable for a somewhat minimalist rwd roadster for $40-45k in the U.S. Between FT86/MX-5 and Supra is where it should be.


"glitter covered poop mx-5"? IMO MX-5 is the opposite of that. *All* the important-to-me sports car stuff: rwd, lightweight, 50/50ish, and none of the expensive and heavy B.S. I don't care about. But anyway, surely a new S2k should come in between MX-5 and Supra, figure 55k CAD. But since we're talking about an imaginary car it could be anywhere in the spectrum...

MX-5's are too expensive. It definitely has a lot of important sportscar stuff, but at a mighty big price. Cheapest MX-5 to come with an LSD is 38k CAD... Manual only. You get a drop top though... nice.

All iterations of the 86/BRZ come with an LSD with a starting price of 27k CAD (BRZ).

Agree to disagree, I just can't see the S2K being cheaper than the Supra, at least not 10k CAD cheaper. I could see it easily in the 60k+ CAD range.

Originally Posted by ZDan

But since we're talking about an imaginary car it could be anywhere in the spectrum...

I STILL HAVE HOPE!

Originally Posted by James H

I was looking at a MX-5 ad and had the same thought. there is a ceiling price for certain cars and Mazda is mad to charge over $40K for that car. I think the sweet spot is $35-37K.

I'd rather eat glue than waste 10k I could use towards a 86/BRZ.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

I'd rather eat glue than waste 10k I could use towards a 86/BRZ.

Did you eat a lot of glue while riding the short bus?




sorry, I just had to do that, although you have been pretty good here lately -


humfrz

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by James H

I concur also. It's amazing when you compare the interior of 5 year old Civics to Mercedes or BMW of the same age. The interior of Japanese cars hold up well, no rattling, creaking or gaps. Can't say the same for Mercs. I was at dealership and checked out a bunch of 5 year old Mercs, Jags and dash, panels were coming loose!

My 2011 BMW and 2011 Mercedes would disagree, both their interiors are wearing better and have less creaks/rattles than my 2013 BRZ, and I'm not bashing the twin's interior here, I'm thoroughly impressed with it.



Sidenote, a 5 year old civic would be a 9th gen which has one of the cheapest interiors i've ever been in. The door panels flexed from using the power windows! the 10th gen is much better.

[B-R-Z]

I'm pretty content with the BRZ interior, below are the issues I have which I can live with.

My issues:

• Weird/unevenly lifting dash immediately above the center vents.
• Wind noise from side-door rubber/insulation around windows.
• What appears to be dried water droplets potentially cleaner drops on my instrument cluster clear plastic, on the inside. No idea how it would have gotten there when I bought my car brand new with 6 miles on the clock.

[Kiske]

Originally Posted by B-R-Z

I'm pretty content with the BRZ interior, below are the issues I have which I can live with.

My issues:

• Weird/unevenly lifting dash immediately above the center vents.
• Wind noise from side-door rubber/insulation around windows.
• What appears to be dried water droplets potentially cleaner drops on my instrument cluster clear plastic, on the inside. No idea how it would have gotten there when I bought my car brand new with 6 miles on the clock.

Those all seem like super easy fixes if your going to live with them. An hour or 2 on a nice Sunday a best with a beer run... In the How-To DIY section we have all these processes covered with pics.

1.Pop off/remove the Radio surround trim and then undo the 2 screws that hold on the center vent and pull it off. You then have 2 options. If the bubbles are REALLY bad you can mix up some adhesive (2part Epoxy) and inject it into where the bubbles are and then press down. OR you can prevent plastic from unevenly expanding and reinforce the under side of the dash by epoxying on a strip of plastic.

2. When you drive the car on the highway (and can safely maintain speed,) press around the area you thing the wind noise is coming from to figure out where in the seal there might be an issue. You may be able to either identify damage to the seal or place a small bit of 3m double sided tape behind the seal to increase the thickness. Many other though have simply had the dealership replace the seal under warranty.

3. Kill the battery. Pop the radio surround off, Remove the 10mm to the left. Use a old credit card or plastic- safe pry too to pop the gauge cluster hood up. This will reveal 2 screws to remove. Lower the steering wheel and pop the cluster forward. You will have to undo one plug for the cluster. Remove the cluster and you can pop the clear plastic off by carefully undoing the plastic clips around the outside edge. Clean the plastic and reinstall. This is the same procedure used to install the Magna gauge overlays if you need a video.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Did you eat a lot of glue while riding the short bus?




sorry, I just had to do that, although you have been pretty good here lately -


humfrz

One of my favorite childhood pastimes.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Kiske

Those all seem like super easy fixes if your going to live with them. An hour or 2 on a nice Sunday a best with a beer run... In the How-To DIY section we have all these processes covered with pics.

1.Pop off/remove the Radio surround trim and then undo the 2 screws that hold on the center vent and pull it off. You then have 2 options. If the bubbles are REALLY bad you can mix up some adhesive (2part Epoxy) and inject it into where the bubbles are and then press down. OR you can prevent plastic from unevenly expanding and reinforce the under side of the dash by epoxying on a strip of plastic.

2. When you drive the car on the highway (and can safely maintain speed,) press around the area you thing the wind noise is coming from to figure out where in the seal there might be an issue. You may be able to either identify damage to the seal or place a small bit of 3m double sided tape behind the seal to increase the thickness. Many other though have simply had the dealership replace the seal under warranty.

3. Kill the battery. Pop the radio surround off, Remove the 10mm to the left. Use a old credit card or plastic- safe pry too to pop the gauge cluster hood up. This will reveal 2 screws to remove. Lower the steering wheel and pop the cluster forward. You will have to undo one plug for the cluster. Remove the cluster and you can pop the clear plastic off by carefully undoing the plastic clips around the outside edge. Clean the plastic and reinstall. This is the same procedure used to install the Magna gauge overlays if you need a video.

it's even easier to complain about things than it is to fix them!

[HachiRokuX]

I wish both of the “second gen 86!!!” Threads had actual updates regarding the car...


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[Will BRZ]

Originally Posted by soundman98

it's even easier to complain about things than it is to fix them!

And it’s free!

Well, would be funny if people were charged per complaint on here

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

One of my favorite childhood pastimes.

…...and, another one was -




humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by soundman98

it's even easier to complain about things than it is to fix them!

And then, when you get over 75, you don't even complain about them anymore, let alone fix them -


humfrz

[korhun]

Some glues taste good and can be used as a chewing gum if necessary.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by korhun

Some glues taste good and can be used as a chewing gum if necessary.

You're doen it all wrong -


humfrz

[sam69]

[QUOTE=HachiRokuX;3287318]I wish both of the “second gen 86!!!” Threads had actual updates regarding the car...


Here we go something about the car .............. https://www.carscoops.com/2019/11/su...t-for-the-brz/

Best I could find and thought it has to be better than the dribble above