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Tcoat · 01-25-2020, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Payload

Has anyone yet began to unlock the stock potential of there gt86 vehicles ecu with an "Openflash Tablet" provided by RomRaider written software updates, or Ecu-Tek hardware..??? Please note that this doesn't apply to owners of force induction FA20 engines, explicitly meaning without the use of a turbo-charger or super-charger bolt-on to the FA20 engine block...

Don't think anybody has tried tuning before. What is this
Romraider" and "echotech" stuff you speak of?

FFS

JD001 · 01-25-2020, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Don't think anybody has tried tuning before. What is this
Romraider" and "echotech" stuff you speak of?

FFS

I think we have been infiltrated by the Honda Civi Si appreciation society...

Tcoat · 01-25-2020, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001

I think we have been infiltrated by the Honda Civi Si appreciation society...

Maybe the Anti-Mensa Society?

KR-S · 01-25-2020, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001

I think we have been infiltrated by the Honda Civi Si appreciation society...

Note to any Civic Si owners: Our engines don't come close to yours, please don't get your hopes up. Thank you.

JD001 · 01-25-2020, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Maybe the Anti-Mensa Society?

Or the 'Mensa-Anti Society'...

Payload · 01-25-2020, 05:16 PM

Buy the hardware on the ft86 website... Its only about $500 for the hardware.. You can pay someone to help you manipulate the mappings and others software settings that it comes with.. Or you could just look up forums with those whom have YouTube videos and others who give details on how to use the software for performance tunning..

Yup that's why they refused to offer this engine a turbo for soooo many years.. Besides the stock air fuel compression ratio is 12.5/1.0.. Which means for every 12.5 grams of air per sec the engine allows 1.0 gram/sec of fuel for a combustion..
Since the amount of air that can be compressed is set at such a high rate by stock standards. Technically it's already a very considerably high induction of air.. Our stock compression ratio is equivalent to those compression values of a supercharged force inducted engine..

Payload · 01-25-2020, 05:38 PM

Yea, so by default the compressor in the FA20 engine literally provides the air quality of a supercharger and turbo charged engine. Toyota just didn't want to give us a better ecu mapping of the software because their motto is to concentrate on making engines that are more reliable and safe, hence by default of those guide lines buyers suffer on performance output, but if you think about it Toyota saved us money on our insurance policy because they could have easily given us 255 hp if they tweeked the ecu software settings with this FA20 engine without the use of Force inductions air compressors.. So to help us enjoy this gift of an engine investors put out tunning hardware to help market the potential of this car.. Notice how these tunning hardwares were almost released around the same time this car was available to purchase.

Lantanafrs2 · 01-25-2020, 05:39 PM

If you ain't a troll, my deepest sympathies

DarkPira7e · 01-25-2020, 05:42 PM

This is so good. Maybe the reason nobody is unlocking the potential is because everyone has the Subaru variant of the FA20, instead of Toyota's?

Payload · 01-25-2020, 05:44 PM

You can buy the tunning hardware on the link provided.
www.ft86speedfactory.com

Payload · 01-25-2020, 05:45 PM

Nah, it's the same engine, but it's introduced with Toyota's d-4s technology.

soundman98 · 01-25-2020, 05:50 PM

soundman98 · 01-25-2020, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Payload

3. Aluminum drive shaft

5. K&N drop box air filter

i'm going be ROFLing if these things are claimed to be worth 20 hp

Payload · 01-25-2020, 05:54 PM

Toyota can do the same thing Honda and Nissan do but they purposely don't tweek the ecu to make it a high performance engine when purchased. They usually leave it up to the user/ buyer to make the changes to the maps to make it a more competitive performing car.. Were as Honda and Nissan focus more on performance so its more likely that they tweek the ecu a little more and alot more in some cases for there performance cars.. Toyota will more likely only concern themselves with quality and reliability of the engine design before they decide to tweek the ecu to make there cars more performance oriented to provide to their buyers..

01-25-2020, 05:44 PM	#24
Payload Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: Raven black manual transmission Location: New York city Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can buy the tunning hardware on the link provided. www.ft86speedfactory.com Last edited by Payload; 01-25-2020 at 05:56 PM.

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Payload Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: Raven black manual transmission Location: New York city Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nah, it's the same engine, but it's introduced with Toyota's d-4s technology. Last edited by Payload; 01-25-2020 at 06:07 PM.

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01-25-2020, 05:16 PM	#20
Payload Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: Raven black manual transmission Location: New York city Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Buy the hardware on the ft86 website... Its only about $500 for the hardware.. You can pay someone to help you manipulate the mappings and others software settings that it comes with.. Or you could just look up forums with those whom have YouTube videos and others who give details on how to use the software for performance tunning.. Yup that's why they refused to offer this engine a turbo for soooo many years.. Besides the stock air fuel compression ratio is 12.5/1.0.. Which means for every 12.5 grams of air per sec the engine allows 1.0 gram/sec of fuel for a combustion.. Since the amount of air that can be compressed is set at such a high rate by stock standards. Technically it's already a very considerably high induction of air.. Our stock compression ratio is equivalent to those compression values of a supercharged force inducted engine..

01-25-2020, 05:38 PM	#21
Payload Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: Raven black manual transmission Location: New York city Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yea, so by default the compressor in the FA20 engine literally provides the air quality of a supercharger and turbo charged engine. Toyota just didn't want to give us a better ecu mapping of the software because their motto is to concentrate on making engines that are more reliable and safe, hence by default of those guide lines buyers suffer on performance output, but if you think about it Toyota saved us money on our insurance policy because they could have easily given us 255 hp if they tweeked the ecu software settings with this FA20 engine without the use of Force inductions air compressors.. So to help us enjoy this gift of an engine investors put out tunning hardware to help market the potential of this car.. Notice how these tunning hardwares were almost released around the same time this car was available to purchase.

01-25-2020, 05:39 PM	#22
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01-25-2020, 05:54 PM	#28
Payload Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: Raven black manual transmission Location: New York city Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota can do the same thing Honda and Nissan do but they purposely don't tweek the ecu to make it a high performance engine when purchased. They usually leave it up to the user/ buyer to make the changes to the maps to make it a more competitive performing car.. Were as Honda and Nissan focus more on performance so its more likely that they tweek the ecu a little more and alot more in some cases for there performance cars.. Toyota will more likely only concern themselves with quality and reliability of the engine design before they decide to tweek the ecu to make there cars more performance oriented to provide to their buyers..

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