TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New JDM GR 86 (Second Gen 86)!

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There is no way the whole model line should be branded as GR since that is pure marketing bullshit.

Wait until they release the "GR86TRD" ... Great-Tard?

Unless they end up swapping GR for TRD and call it TRD86. This adds to the confusion of what both are supposed to be. But that's what marketing is all about. People love their letters and numbers.

Originally Posted by StE92ve

Need to know what's up with the different head units:

Well, I sure hope we get the BRZ unit because it has actual buttons and knobs. Although the second unit looks like it might have a higher quality screen.

[DarkPira7e]

As is typical, Toyota version looks better. Love it

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

What exactly was it "intended for"?
As many Hakone's will get tracked as any other version.
The majority of the PP cars will never ever see a track.

Pretentious "enthusiast" is pretentious.

Its "intended" to be driven hard!
because of torque dip, the torque dip was "intended" to be there to encourage drivers to rev the ever living shit out of the engine so they dont sit in that valley!

And thus it is "intended" to be driven only on a racetrack because people who drive these daily are posers who dont deserve this car. Those people need to be camry's and corollas because those are "intended" for the person who doesnt care about driving!

[beltax90]

[Grateful Dave]

It's hard to give a complete assessment without seeing it in person due to lens distortions and poor camera angles, but my first impressions are I'd rather keep my 2013 Fr-s. the GR 86 looks kinda of a cross between the Brz, Camry. and Lexus RC. The new Celica? It looks more like a sporty car not a "Sports Car".

[surfwaxsmitty]

The nostalgic type R fanboy in me wants that red carpet!

[randomweather]

I'll need some time to marinate into the new design. I do like it better than the BRZ because of the cleaner front bumper. But it sort of reminds me of a Nissan 350Z at the front. The back is too generic for me, maybe a duck tail wing or something would make it better? I dunno...



1st gen still holds its own since it's sort of have a unique look

[Racecomp Engineering]

I think it looks great. Slightly better than the BRZ IMO, but that's personal taste. Just a little cleaner, cohesive, and more grown-up. Like me!



I see they've already lifted it, beating us to our RCE Rally springs release. JK...and I'm not one to usually complain about wheel gap but goodness that is some wheel gap.

- Andrew

[JD001]

The GR86 looks the nicer of the 2 (externally), however, I'm loving the BRZeeee chairs.. the "go-faster" stripe.. what more does a "slow" sport's car need or indeed want?? Okay,okay no hecklers!! Yes a TC/SC would be nice..

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by beltax90

The startup screen on the main guage cluster is actually pretty neat.
The GR logo shows up then spins around and ends up being the 86 logo while lights on the side move in and out to mimic the boxer pistons.
Then the tach comes on.

The BRZ is a bit less animated, it says BRZ, and i think the round border around it spins and then and then the tach comes on with a guage sweep, again the lights for the boxer pistons are animated the same way as the 86.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Its "intended" to be driven hard!
because of torque dip, the torque dip was "intended" to be there to encourage drivers to rev the ever living shit out of the engine so they dont sit in that valley!

And thus it is "intended" to be driven only on a racetrack because people who drive these daily are posers who dont deserve this car. Those people need to be camry's and corollas because those are "intended" for the person who doesnt care about driving!

I have a "race" prepped bare-bones BRZ in plain white color driven on the weekends and another one in a specially manufactured color with all the comforts including alcantara and leather driven daily. I enjoy both of them in a different way. There isn't really a reason why we should focus to a particular type of usage or a specific kind of driver. Factory should offer different options and the customer is free to choose what he likes.

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by StE92ve

Need to know what's up with the different head units:

Japanese market cars are known to come with several headunit options (Often aftermarket units too) or no headunit at all in case you want to install your own.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I have a "race" prepped bare-bones BRZ in plain white color driven on the weekends and another one in a specially manufactured color with all the comforts including alcantara and leather driven daily. I enjoy both of them in a different way. There isn't really a reason why we should focus to a particular type of usage or a specific kind of driver. Factory should offer different options and the customer is free to choose what he likes.

He was being factious based on the other dude's post.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Well, I sure hope we get the BRZ unit because it has actual buttons and knobs. Although the second unit looks like it might have a higher quality screen.

More importantly, it's also bigger. But NA head units will likely be different.