Jason Cammisa 2022 BRZ Hagerty Video - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

brainf18 · 02-04-2021, 12:27 PM

This is a great video...especially if you like math! I can't wait to drive one

Dzmitry · 02-04-2021, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brainf18

This is a great video...especially if you like math! I can't wait to drive one

Definitely a cool video. He speaks of the things that the true enthusiasts here more or less appreciate. It's going to be a great car to drive.

blackhawkdown · 02-04-2021, 01:09 PM

Nothing beats this car at it’s price point.

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mazeroni · 02-04-2021, 01:11 PM

"Subaru got rid of the intake tube... and is piping fake engine noise through the speakers..."

Wonder where he got that info, but I suspected that from some of the previous videos we have seen. It sounded quick synthetic from the inside.

Interior quality is garbage, as expected. The head unit is... low quality.

Also interesting is him confirming that the rear spoiler is plastic and removable. People who want a bigger ducktail or a more flat piece like the current car have that option.

His breakdown of the engine torque vs the Miata is also good. So the car should feel like it is pulling harder than the Miata. But he also agrees that Subaru should have made the redline 8,000 with 250hp.

Also, yes, shut up about turbos. It's won't happen, nobody can afford it, just go buy any number of other sports cars with a turbo and the 60K they cost.

weederr33 · 02-04-2021, 01:56 PM

God that wheel gap lol

ZDan · 02-04-2021, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

God that wheel gap lol

'22 wheel gap looks a LOT better than '13-'20 to me. Looks (barely) tolerable, whereas '13-'20 is just, not...

ZDan · 02-04-2021, 04:04 PM

Guy says soo-buh-ROO instead of SOO-buh-roo. Weird!

Sasquachulator · 02-04-2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

God that wheel gap lol

Toyota wheel gap situation is kind wierd.
IT looks fine from far away, with certain wheels/designs.

obviously looks terribad when close up cuz you can shove your whole fist in there.

makes you wonder how in the hell the german cars can have almost no wheel gap and just as much stock ground clearance....

Sport-Tech · 02-04-2021, 06:53 PM

Can definitely confirm the "faster than an ND2" claim

- I edited the torque tables for both the GT86 and the ND in Assetto Corsa to the new/latest specs, and the 2022 86 just with the engine mod alone is 3 seconds quicker around Sebring than the ND2 (on semi-slicks for both cars).

The new-spec twin is also more fun on the virtual track than the old one thanks to that meatier power band. Fun factor was further enhanced by giving the engine the sound profile from the AMG GT.

Sport-Tech · 02-04-2021, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Toyota wheel gap situation is kind wierd.
IT looks fine from far away, with certain wheels/designs.

obviously looks terribad when close up cuz you can shove your whole fist in there.

makes you wonder how in the hell the german cars can have almost no wheel gap and just as much stock ground clearance....

Doesn't look that bad to me - but then I can't stand the slammed look.

Check out the Miata if you want some gaptastic.

D20Z · 02-04-2021, 07:55 PM

Looking forward to a road test review and a real test at some point for myself. Impressed with the update/new BRZ

Lantanafrs2 · 02-04-2021, 08:30 PM

Wheel gap is subjective. Until you encounter parking lot speed bumps.

RToyo86 · 02-04-2021, 08:44 PM

The wheel gap looks similar to how the first gen sits with RCE yellows. I would say 2022 car is still a touch taller.

I pretty much agree with everything Jason said.
The base 86 was around 36kCAD out the door with taxes etc. It would easily push close to 50k with turbo, brembos, beefed up drivetrain and suspension.

It would be nice to see them offer that option before it is discontinued towards the end of its life cycle.

ZDan · 02-04-2021, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86

The wheel gap looks similar to how the first gen sits with RCE yellows. I would say 2022 car is still a touch taller.

???
It looks lower to me. Specs say it is indeed 0.4" lower in height, and for sure the fenders are lower as well.

02-04-2021, 12:27 PM	#1
brainf18 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Drives: Multiple Porsches Location: KY Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 32 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Jason Cammisa 2022 BRZ Hagerty Video This is a great video...especially if you like math! I can't wait to drive one Last edited by brainf18; 02-04-2021 at 12:43 PM.

02-04-2021, 01:11 PM	#4
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"Subaru got rid of the intake tube... and is piping fake engine noise through the speakers..." Wonder where he got that info, but I suspected that from some of the previous videos we have seen. It sounded quick synthetic from the inside. Interior quality is garbage, as expected. The head unit is... low quality. Also interesting is him confirming that the rear spoiler is plastic and removable. People who want a bigger ducktail or a more flat piece like the current car have that option. His breakdown of the engine torque vs the Miata is also good. So the car should feel like it is pulling harder than the Miata. But he also agrees that Subaru should have made the redline 8,000 with 250hp. Also, yes, shut up about turbos. It's won't happen, nobody can afford it, just go buy any number of other sports cars with a turbo and the 60K they cost. Last edited by mazeroni; 02-04-2021 at 01:31 PM.

02-04-2021, 01:56 PM	#5
weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,326 Thanks: 4,529 Thanked 5,587 Times in 2,929 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	God that wheel gap lol __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

02-04-2021, 06:53 PM	#9
Sport-Tech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: TBD Location: Toronto Posts: 2,583 Thanks: 665 Thanked 685 Times in 386 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can definitely confirm the "faster than an ND2" claim - I edited the torque tables for both the GT86 and the ND in Assetto Corsa to the new/latest specs, and the 2022 86 just with the engine mod alone is 3 seconds quicker around Sebring than the ND2 (on semi-slicks for both cars). The new-spec twin is also more fun on the virtual track than the old one thanks to that meatier power band. Fun factor was further enhanced by giving the engine the sound profile from the AMG GT. Last edited by Sport-Tech; 02-04-2021 at 07:14 PM.

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RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,171 Thanks: 1,710 Thanked 2,214 Times in 1,131 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The wheel gap looks similar to how the first gen sits with RCE yellows. I would say 2022 car is still a touch taller. I pretty much agree with everything Jason said. The base 86 was around 36kCAD out the door with taxes etc. It would easily push close to 50k with turbo, brembos, beefed up drivetrain and suspension. It would be nice to see them offer that option before it is discontinued towards the end of its life cycle.

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