NorCal 86DAY - Dyno Results

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Bach415

I wonder what it would have made/the difference on CARB tune vs custom tune.

With all the pipes, injectors,etc I bet the carb tune would be awful.

Anyway, where are the rest of the results? Come on guys!

[Bach415]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

With all the pipes, injectors,etc I bet the carb tune would be awful.

Anyway, where are the rest of the results? Come on guys!

Probably. But it would be nice to know if it still ran with the CARB tune after all the mods so smog wouldn't be a bitch after the 6 years no smog limit.

[PMok]

Originally Posted by Bach415

Probably. But it would be nice to know if it still ran with the CARB tune after all the mods so smog wouldn't be a bitch after the 6 years no smog limit.

I think that would be irrelevant... a smog tech wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a CARB tune and a custom tune on the car. That's not the stumbling block to failing smog. The car as equipped would almost immediately fail visual inspection for all the non-emissions compliant parts on the car.

[Bach415]

Originally Posted by PMok

I think that would be irrelevant... a smog tech wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a CARB tune and a custom tune on the car. That's not the stumbling block to failing smog. The car as equipped would almost immediately fail visual inspection for all the non-emissions compliant parts on the car.

I don't think it's irrelevant that much. I know that the smog tech wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two tunes on the car, but the sniffer that is used for the smog inspection does. We know that the difference between tunes contribute to how much emissions produced at the tail pipe for the sniffer test. Visual inspection is a whole another thing because not all places would visually inspect the exhaust system before doing the smog.

In a way, what I'm asking is, will the car run properly with the current mods on, using the CARB tune as that should produce less emissions? It could help pass smog test (sniffer portion) without the hassle of changing the parts out.

[GenRuleAThumb]

Originally Posted by Bach415

I don't think it's irrelevant that much. I know that the smog tech wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two tunes on the car, but the sniffer that is used for the smog inspection does. We know that the difference between tunes contribute to how much emissions produced at the tail pipe for the sniffer test. Visual inspection is a whole another thing because not all places would visually inspect the exhaust system before doing the smog.

In a way, what I'm asking is, will the car run properly with the current mods on, using the CARB tune as that should produce less emissions? It could help pass smog test (sniffer portion) without the hassle of changing the parts out.

New cars don't get the sniffer. They simply plug into obd port.

[Bach415]

Originally Posted by GenRuleAThumb

New cars don't get the sniffer. They simply plug into obd port.

Well then. I stand corrected on my previous post. I didn't notice that newer cars just use obd only and visual for smog.

[undefindedt]

Nice results people. I guess Chris in his Stormtrooper ran a pull or two but his clutch wouldnt grab..well he got mad and bought a ACT and CF driveshaft..put it in last weekend..

Took it to Sonoma drags last night and ran a 13.1x with TC on and bog off line even with a 5K launch control

Makes me wanna stop putting money into my trucks and go boosted but idk

[Sapphireho]

I'm getting ATC, injectors, fuel pump, flex fuel, and tune from William at delicious. Can't wait to see the new numbers.

[exE36M3]

So I see quite a few "catless" parts in the notes of the dynos. :\

I'm all for making more power gentlemen but you guys are putting some serious stuff into the air.
CARB and emissions aren't all about politics.

When you are standing in line at the pharmacy to buy asthma inhalers for your kids or yourself...
That 15 hp - 20 hp over the other guy doesn't seem worth it to me.

And if you happen to get the *wrong* cop to pull you over...

Section 43008.6 (a-b) allows the courts to collect up to $1,500 per offense or failure to pass smog due to tampering.
Federal Offense by Section 205 (a). The operator's fine can be no more than $2,500 and the installation agency no more than $25,000.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by exE36M3

So I see quite a few "catless" parts in the notes of the dynos. :\

Not me! Stock headers and catted mid-pipe. Even when I had JDL, I had the catted version lol. Probably going to stick with running the CARB tune too

[GenRuleAThumb]

Originally Posted by exE36M3

So I see quite a few "catless" parts in the notes of the dynos. :\

I'm all for making more power gentlemen but you guys are putting some serious stuff into the air.
CARB and emissions aren't all about politics.

When you are standing in line at the pharmacy to buy asthma inhalers for your kids or yourself...
That 15 hp - 20 hp over the other guy doesn't seem worth it to me.

And if you happen to get the *wrong* cop to pull you over...

Section 43008.6 (a-b) allows the courts to collect up to $1,500 per offense or failure to pass smog due to tampering.
Federal Offense by Section 205 (a). The operator's fine can be no more than $2,500 and the installation agency no more than $25,000.

Fair enough.. but I'm running e85. And only missing the cat at the header not the mid pipe.. my guess is I'm polluting less than you with the e85 and 1 cat..

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by PMok

Just to clarify, your car has the TRD exhaust doesn't it? D-shaped exhaust tips... Seems like it's good for extra 8hp compared to my standard exaust...

Gary at Mann and Bill of Delicious both said the TRD is worse than stock. Gary said they measured pipe diameter and TRD is less than stock. They think it is robbing me of 10 Hp.

New numbers:

303.5 corrected
310.3 engine
231.9 torque

[PMok]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Gary at Mann and Bill of Delicious both said the TRD is worse than stock. Gary said they measured pipe diameter and TRD is less than stock. They think it is robbing me of 10 Hp.

New numbers:

303.5 corrected
310.3 engine
231.9 torque

Wow, very nice... that's got to be a nice kick in the pants compared to what you had before...

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by PMok

Wow, very nice... that's got to be a nice kick in the pants compared to what you had before...

The car is perfect now, and I don't just mean power, I mean idle, parking lot speed, and going fast. It is so smooth and perfect. I am so happy with it now.

The new clutch is awesome too. I just really love the car now.

I just had to drive it so I took it up hwy 9 to Boulder Creek today, then down Bear Creek. It was super wet, covered with tree debris, and slippery, but I had to drive it. First time the car has been in the rain. I just cruised, practiced shifting with the new clutch, and had a blast.

I can't say again how happy I am with the car! Sooooper fun