Gen2 Blown Engine Resource Thread - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Strat_FRS · 05-21-2023, 10:40 PM

I am seeing more reported FA24 engine failures so it's time to get a registry started to see if we can tease out patterns through data and draw some relevant conclusions. I've created the registry below. Please complete if your engine has failed, be as specific as possible and share this with others.

https://forms.gle/RgHeQy7DQKdSY4Uz8

ACT86 · 05-22-2023, 05:51 AM

Good idea to document. I haven’t heard of many failures yet, but maybe I have missed them.

vindiesel · 05-22-2023, 06:54 AM

Is this a challenge?

OkieSnuffBox · 05-22-2023, 09:40 AM

How many have you seen reported out of like 12k+ cars sold? I'm guessing at 12k, since the 2022 totals for both cars was just north of 8k. And ordering for 2024 models has been open for a while.

Strat_FRS · 05-22-2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

How many have you seen reported out of like 12k+ cars sold? I'm guessing at 12k, since the 2022 totals for both cars was just north of 8k. And ordering for 2024 models has been open for a while.

I have seen people report them on various social media platforms. This is not a "let's be scared" idea, this is to document failures early on as it can lead to a better understanding of scenarios under which they happen and root causes.

OkieSnuffBox · 05-22-2023, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Strat_FRS

I have seen people report them on various social media platforms. This is not a "let's be scared" idea, this is to document failures early on as it can lead to a better understanding of scenarios under which they happen and root causes.

Gotcha. I'm trying to decide between letting the dealer drop the pan and check, they said if they found RTV it would be covered under warranty.

Or just go to the local Subaru speed shop here and have them drop the pan, clean out any RTV, install the baffle and additional screen and call it a day.

Strat_FRS · 05-22-2023, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Gotcha. I'm trying to decide between letting the dealer drop the pan and check, they said if they found RTV it would be covered under warranty.

Or just go to the local Subaru speed shop here and have them drop the pan, clean out any RTV, install the baffle and additional screen and call it a day.

Pretty much all the cars I have seen or heard of have had RTV when the pan was dropped. If the dealer is going to do it for free, why not.

Wally86 · 05-22-2023, 12:51 PM

Someone already created one: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150455

OldBiker · 05-22-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Gotcha. I'm trying to decide between letting the dealer drop the pan and check, they said if they found RTV it would be covered under warranty.

Do you trust the dealer not to goop it up like the factory?

OkieSnuffBox · 05-22-2023, 06:08 PM

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Do you trust the dealer not to goop it up like the factory?

That's part of the problem. And if they over-used RTV and it failed because of that anyway, how hard is it then going to be to get the entire engine warrantied.

Strat_FRS · 05-22-2023, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally86

Someone already created one: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150455

This is not just targeted at the RTV issue. This is looking at when an engine fails - what can we learn from it. RTV is not the only possible reason for failure.

Wally86 · 05-23-2023, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Strat_FRS

This is not just targeted at the RTV issue. This is looking at when an engine fails - what can we learn from it. RTV is not the only possible reason for failure.

But hasn't it just been RTV and money shifting so far?

___LUNK · 05-23-2023, 11:01 AM

Engine failed this Sunday on track 3 laps into first session, dealer and Toyota corporate refusing warranty for this:

OkieSnuffBox · 05-23-2023, 11:49 AM

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Engine failed this Sunday on track 3 laps into first session, dealer and Toyota corporate refusing warranty for this:

That sucks and that noise made me cry on the inside.

Had you dropped the pan to check/clear out RTV? Any oiling mods? Oil cooler? Oil weight?

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