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Old 02-26-2016, 10:38 AM   #29
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But how is a performance alignment different from normal? It's just farther/steeper/more right? I'm pretty sure the guy at Sears can figure out he needs to move the tophat further to get more camber. He may not be know that you need to move some bolts top different holes to get the bigger numbers(seen this before) but if you explain it to them they should be fine. As far as suggesting parts to get, I doubt even a performance shop will be aware if every option we have available as many companies develop exclusively for twins or Subarus. That's what the internet is for anyways right? To figure out what parts you need and watch porn


My only reasoning.... is that they probably deal with the parts regularly, while the guy at sears may only see a few a month. I'm sure a performance shop would understand an eccentric bushing and how to use it (just an example) more than the average NTB alignment guy. I'd rather have a guy know what to do with a part than have to explain how to use it. Also a performance shop that does alignments too, I would hope could give some general parts suggestions if they need more adjustment..... Maybe not specific names or companies but like "hey you need something to adjust your rear camber, I have seen people use control arms before maybe look in to that." Where as the NTB guy would most likely say, "Can't get the numbers you're looking for. Sorry."


I said it all depends! Sometimes you get an enthusiast at those places that understands you don't want your wheels scratched when they put tires on, lol.
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My only reasoning.... is that they probably deal with the parts regularly, while the guy at sears may only see a few a month. I'm sure a performance shop would understand an eccentric bushing and how to use it (just an example) more than the average NTB alignment guy. I'd rather have a guy know what to do with a part than have to explain how to use it. Also a performance shop that does alignments too, I would hope could give some general parts suggestions if they need more adjustment..... Maybe not specific names or companies but like "hey you need something to adjust your rear camber, I have seen people use control arms before maybe look in to that." Where as the NTB guy would most likely say, "Can't get the numbers you're looking for. Sorry."


I said it all depends! Sometimes you get an enthusiast at those places that understands you don't want your wheels scratched when they put tires on, lol.
Point taken. I don't mind explaining how my coils need adjusted so long as it's right. I've had a dealership(only place local that could get mine on the rack) not adjust rear camber cause they couldn't figure it how to use the arms with the frame in the way and just maxed the front without relocating bolts and were like "well, we don't know what we are doing so that'll be 70$" they made it worse than when it went in. Yet I had a local shop with a single employee try everything to get my car set up on the rack but ended up being unable to do it cause if my tire tuck and the way his sensors mounted. But he tried and understood how to make adjustments with a quick explanation.

I dunno, just doesn't seem useful to sell out a performance shop when all information is already online and OPs setup is stock anyways. I'd think one you can work with would be better than a big place that won't listen to you

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I have 245/35 18x8.5 +33 lowered on springs with camber bolts ~ -1 degree camber and it pokes just slightly. I don't rub at all on stock struts even at full lock. I'm considering camber plates so I can get to -2
Btw... A trick some performance shops will do is swap the smaller strut bolt and the camber bolt and use it as a crash bolt to sneak in some extra neg camber without having to buy more parts. That seems more viable than slotting the struts, etc. as well. If you're lowered 3/4" or more, it's possible to get -2 without camber plates
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