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Old 07-21-2020, 03:50 PM   #1
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Turbo BRZ vs A90 Supra - AMA related to these cars.

I have both a GReddy Turbo BRZ on flex, as well as a A90 Supra running ethanol.

My BRZ has won several championships in various track driving disciplines, while retaining a full interior, aftermarket audio system with subs, and an exhaust volume quieter than stock.

While the Supra is still a very new platform, my Supra holds the record for the fastest 60-130 on a stock turbo without meth injection or Nitrous.

Ask me anything about either of these cars, and their ownership experience!
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How much do you hate the auto?

Love the A90's though.
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How much do you hate the auto?

Love the A90's though.
I don't. Cars built "for fast" will all be auto.

The only manual cars are the "driving experience" cars.
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I don't. Cars built "for fast" will all be auto.

The only manual cars are the "driving experience" cars.
That's good You can have fast manual just takes more dedication for sure.
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That's good You can have fast manual just takes more dedication for sure.
You can, but a fast manual car, all else equal, will be faster auto.

For the same reason, a 550whp A90 supra will pull on a 700whp A80 supra.
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So if your BRZ was NOT turbocharged, would you rather do NA motor w header, over pipe, tune (weight savings; wheels rotors, etc) or a Harrop or Edelbrock SC set up?



I almost bought a Supra, but automatic, and the interior is a bit cramped as compared to the BRZ/86 (I have a 2020 tS). Maybe in a few years.....
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an exhaust volume quieter than stock.
Care to share the setup please?
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Care to share the setup please?
Turbo + stock front pipe + CSG Touring86 exhaust
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So if your BRZ was NOT turbocharged, would you rather do NA motor w header, over pipe, tune (weight savings; wheels rotors, etc) or a Harrop or Edelbrock SC set up?



I almost bought a Supra, but automatic, and the interior is a bit cramped as compared to the BRZ/86 (I have a 2020 tS). Maybe in a few years.....
I was NA with full bolt-ons before I boosted.

I'd go supercharger *WITH* the NA mods.
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Be sure to check your rear view, so you can let off before the a80 slingshots the BMW.
Any slingshotting won't happen until 160...
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You can, but a fast manual car, all else equal, will be faster auto.

For the same reason, a 550whp A90 supra will pull on a 700whp A80 supra.
In a 2600lb car with only 200hp.. the manual probably helps a bit. But yeah 700hp you don't have a hope.

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I have both a GReddy Turbo BRZ on flex, as well as a A90 Supra running ethanol.
While the Supra is still a very new platform, my Supra holds the record for the fastest 60-130 on a stock turbo without meth injection or Nitrous.

Ask me anything about either of these cars, and their ownership experience!
How hard does the supra pull on the BRZ 60-130, and what power level to make the brz pull on the supra 60-130?
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A couple of questions.

1. Hypothetical:

If you had to keep one and sell one, which one would you keep? Assuming you got a refund/decent price for either car taking the $$$ value out of the equation. I guess I’m asking which is your favourite.

2. Which is the better value for money in your opinion? It sounds like you’ve put a bit of money into the BRZ. Is it worth it for the performance gains or are you better off going with a factory solution like the Supra?
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Wow that's amazing 150rwhp more and only 108 more pounds and it will not catch the bmw till 160. That breaks the laws of physics, got hand it to those germans.
I mean 27 percent more hp and only 3 percent weight penalty and it still can't catch it.

Can't wait to see A90 on the street against a BRZ
Probably has to do with modern traction control, 6 useable auto gears vs 5 usable manual gears, and maybe a little aerodynamic.

Curious how a K24 swapped turbo BRZ would do... lol.
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