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Old 05-03-2021, 02:38 PM   #2255
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It's pretty much impossible to not eat geneticially modified food. Just about everything we consider food (whether animal or vegetable) has gone through gene modification either directly through gene manipulation or through selective breeding.
Bananas are a great example of this. The bananas one sees in stores has been genetically modified. Even the organic ones are.
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Well the spike alone causes lung damage for one. But also I know it's supposedly only to create that spike protein but how do we really know it will do that perfect? Like did we inspect every molecule in the viral one-by-one? The side-effects some people have experienced seem worse than virus (for a healthy young person). I know one guy whose whole arm swelled up like a softball. Like there is something going on in there. Regardless of whether or not it immediately effect the core DNA, hijacking the genetic process may have implications that the science just isn't in on yet. I'm sorry but I just want to see more data. Like 20 years worth of data. How about this, I will get the vaccine... in like 20 years... assuming there is no correlation between the vaccines and some bad medical issues.

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How do we know it will do that perfectly? That mRNA molecule isnít going to last indefinitely in you. RNAase are going to break it down pretty quickly. Youíre not getting a gene to start making a spike protein.

We actually did inspect every molecule of it very early on. The genome was sequenced.

Side effects compared to viral infections? Remember saying youíd prefer a good 20 years of data to give analysis to? Perhaps look at efficacy trials of the drugs vs real world results. (Iíll help if you donít care to find peer reviewed piece).

Yes, there is something going on when you feel sore, sick, or have swelling. It is a reaction to antibodies. Their purpose isnít to just kind of monitor and maintain a threshold of suspects. Itís working to decimate that shit and retain a 0% threshold.
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My wife is a vegetarian, I wasn't much of a meat eater so my diet was more or less aligned with my wife. Only diverting when I was in the office, when what was available locally worked for me.

Since the lockdown, we have slowly moved over to plant based diet, the only dairy products being milk for tea and my cornflakes (I can't do oat milk). We have also cut out oil..
My statement holds for vegetables as well. Really, very little in the produce department of your grocer grows wild somewhere in its "grocery form".
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We wouldn't even recognize the landrace (naturally occurring) species of plants and animals compared to the ones we cultivate and consume.

We have gone full circle here, from, "Let's all encourage each other to do what it takes to end this mayhem", to ,"Are you part of the solution or the problem?" and finally back to,"We (almost) all agree to be part to the solution and to support each other".

Who cares what ONE person does (or doesn't) to help. The mentality of the one swimming against the stream is different and they just might be more problematic to themselves than they will ever be to you.

Dying for attention? Just disagree with everyone, that'll do the trick.
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I'm not arguing against it. I hope everybody gets it so we get this supposed herd immunity and go back to normal life. I would just rather be one of the 30%.

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Once again that's a contradiction. I know everyone has rode your ass, but you keep writing yourself into a corner.
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Once again that's a contradiction. I know everyone has rode your ass, but you keep writing yourself into a corner.
I took it less as an attempt to justify his position, and more of an admittance that he does not want to be part of the solution. I personally would feel guilty in said position, especially if it is as minor an inconvenience as showing up for a shot or two given the gravity of the situation, but that is just me. Others may feel different and there is nothing I can do about it but continue to be part of the solution and encourage others to do the same.
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I took it less as an attempt to justify his position, and more of an admittance that he does not want to be part of the solution. I personally would feel guilty in said position, especially if it is as minor an inconvenience as showing up for a shot or two given the gravity of the situation, but that is just me. Others may feel different and there is nothing I can do about it but continue to be part of the solution and encourage others to do the same.
I'm really curious if @p1l0t normally gets the flu vaccine and such. Because if so, he should be able to take the J&J vaccine with a clear conscious. Since it seems like most of the "genetic modification" issue he has is related to mRNA, not the more traditional method.
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I'm really curious if @p1l0t normally gets the flu vaccine and such. Because if so, he should be able to take the J&J vaccine with a clear conscious. Since it seems like most of the "genetic modification" issue he has is related to mRNA, not the more traditional method.
I do know someone who refuses to get the mRNA vaccines, but is in line for the J&J. It is a thing, so I would be curious as to that answer too.
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There's a vaccine developed from Quebec that uses tobacco plants to synthesize spike proteins. I don't know what stage they are at or if it will be put into practical use and or when.
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U.S. to restrict travel from India effective May 4 as Covid surge devastates the country

Huh, I thought the virus was all an American deep state lie.
Well since the deep state found out India has all but been spared from the virus because of their use of over-the-counter Hydroxychloroquine they came up with this outbreak story to further their agenda. They know that Americans only read headlines, do no research and need no facts to be convinced of things so it's easy. Just add "The science says" and it'll be fact instantaneously...
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Well since the deep state found out India has all but been spared from the virus because of their use of over-the-counter Hydroxychloroquine they came up with this outbreak story to further their agenda. They know that Americans only read headlines, do no research and need no facts to be convinced of things so it's easy. Just add "The science says" and it'll be fact instantaneously...
You truly are a moron lol
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What is super amusing, in this thread particularly, is how everyone seems to be an expert on everything, including the decisions other should make on every side of the issue. Especially from those that are not infectious disease experts, or even in the science or medical field.

While I would suspect that in their actual day jobs they make mistakes daily, some minor, some major...but on the internet their word should be abided by dammit, and if not they'll find scraps of extracted and mis-understood/interpreted data to further their claim(s).

Quite funny....





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You truly are a moron lol
Do I really need to alert people that the content was in jest?

Or are some people stuck so far up their own rear that they can't tell a joke when they see one?

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What is super amusing, in this thread particularly, is how everyone seems to be an expert on everything, including the decisions other should make on every side of the issue. Especially from those that are not infectious disease experts, or even in the science or medical field.

While I would suspect that in their actual day jobs they make mistakes daily, some minor, some major...but on the internet their word should be abided by dammit, and if not they'll find scraps of extracted and mis-understood/interpreted data to further their claim(s).

Quite funny....





I mean, some people in here listen to random internet people and fundraising professionals over actual experts anyway, so it's not like it's hurting anything lol.
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