Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger

[twag4]

Looks like a lot more surface area on top than on bottom, unneeded overhang in the front for sure. This would negate the idea that its entirety is for inter cooler. I completely understand that it shares concept with the cosworth unit, but everything I see on the cosworth unit makes sense for housing the inter cooler. Again- functional with a little brand advert. Im not too impressed that the enforce unit is aluminum not plastic. The unneccesary overhang weighs that much more for being aluminum not plastic. If you want an American v8, buy it. I don't at all understand the need to mimick the crap automakers use to hide plastic intake manifolds and valve covers on modern engines. The plastic is for weight savings and heat dissipation, not to mention lower cost. Then, to offset all that function they put a big cover over the engine to make it look like something it isn't. Ours is visible and looks ok. They put a small cover on it that isn't really necessary, but it's fairly minimal. I'm a big fan of edelbrock from way back, this just looks silly and unnecessary to me. I would rather see them cater to function, rather than the Chevy Ford and Chrysler crowd that they traditionally cater to. Give them the big heavy lumps of bling. They weigh 4000 lbs anyway. We hav a small, lightweight car that really doesn't need a lot of extra flash under the hood. The American muscle crowd will never be the customer of this product. Most of them are too busy juicing their camaros and challengers. I would love to see weight specs compared to cosworth, and charge temps too. I'll bet this will be found wanting. I'm sorry for all the feelings I hurt here, but this thing is ugly to me. It seems to cater too much to appearance. It may very well perform great- I hope it does. Another choice for us is a good thing.another thing, in this picture there doesn't appear to be a pulley that runs the compressor unit. There are a great number of extra idlers, but where is the drive neck? It may be there under the front porch awning I see in the picture, but I don't even see the front of the supercharger. I want to see a supercharger if I have a supercharger. I'll vote with my wallet when I finallly supercharge my car. If this things exceeds its appearance, I could be swayed. But, it's looks are not good. And the inter cooler part IS a monstrosity. Thanks for the education from the three captain obvious', I'm not convinced this is dedigned more for function than v8 appearance.

[Andrew025]

Man, you are way too hung up on the appearance and what you "think" they are trying to cater to.

[tahdizzle]

Eh, if he doesn't like it he doesn't like it.

Does it perform? Thats all that really matters and he mentioned that :p

[Andrew025]

I don't really like it either, but I'm not writing a book about it.

[weederr33]

Well I think it looks pretty rad. So boom!

[Thorpedo]

I love how the conversation is regarding the aesthetic value of the supercharger. W-T-F is wrong with people? Who gives a ^$%# about a lb of extra plastic or aluminium?

Go back to the "How to Plasti-Dip your emblems" thread.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Thorpedo

I love how the conversation is regarding the aesthetic value of the supercharger. W-T-F is wrong with people? Who gives a ^$%# about a lb of extra plastic or aluminium?

Go back to the "How to Plasti-Dip your emblems" thread.

That pound will ruin the "feel" of the car...What these cars were meant for

[P86RAVES]

Originally Posted by raven1231

That pound will ruin the "feel" of the car...What these cars were meant for

Is this sarcasm?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by twag4

Looks like a lot more surface area on top than on bottom, unneeded overhang in the front for sure. This would negate the idea that its entirety is for inter cooler. I completely understand that it shares concept with the cosworth unit, but everything I see on the cosworth unit makes sense for housing the inter cooler. Again- functional with a little brand advert. Im not too impressed that the enforce unit is aluminum not plastic. The unneccesary overhang weighs that much more for being aluminum not plastic. If you want an American v8, buy it. I don't at all understand the need to mimick the crap automakers use to hide plastic intake manifolds and valve covers on modern engines. The plastic is for weight savings and heat dissipation, not to mention lower cost. Then, to offset all that function they put a big cover over the engine to make it look like something it isn't. Ours is visible and looks ok. They put a small cover on it that isn't really necessary, but it's fairly minimal. I'm a big fan of edelbrock from way back, this just looks silly and unnecessary to me. I would rather see them cater to function, rather than the Chevy Ford and Chrysler crowd that they traditionally cater to. Give them the big heavy lumps of bling. They weigh 4000 lbs anyway. We hav a small, lightweight car that really doesn't need a lot of extra flash under the hood. The American muscle crowd will never be the customer of this product. Most of them are too busy juicing their camaros and challengers. I would love to see weight specs compared to cosworth, and charge temps too. I'll bet this will be found wanting. I'm sorry for all the feelings I hurt here, but this thing is ugly to me. It seems to cater too much to appearance. It may very well perform great- I hope it does. Another choice for us is a good thing.another thing, in this picture there doesn't appear to be a pulley that runs the compressor unit. There are a great number of extra idlers, but where is the drive neck? It may be there under the front porch awning I see in the picture, but I don't even see the front of the supercharger. I want to see a supercharger if I have a supercharger. I'll vote with my wallet when I finallly supercharge my car. If this things exceeds its appearance, I could be swayed. But, it's looks are not good. And the inter cooler part IS a monstrosity. Thanks for the education from the three captain obvious', I'm not convinced this is dedigned more for function than v8 appearance.

WTF?

[twag4]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Man, you are way too hung up on the appearance and what you "think" they are trying to cater to.

Yes, that is it. Thanks

[twag4]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

WTF?

Thanks for the input!

[twag4]

Hey, I got flamed for having an opinion. That is WTF! So I explained why I didn't like it, now all you forum hero types don't like that. Sorry. Buy millions of these, prove they are the best. People have pretty tender feelings for a system that doesn't exist yet for the real world. Wow!

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by twag4

Looks like a lot more surface area on top than on bottom, unneeded overhang in the front for sure. This would negate the idea that its entirety is for inter cooler. I completely understand that it shares concept with the cosworth unit, but everything I see on the cosworth unit makes sense for housing the inter cooler. Again- functional with a little brand advert. Im not too impressed that the enforce unit is aluminum not plastic. The unneccesary overhang weighs that much more for being aluminum not plastic. If you want an American v8, buy it. I don't at all understand the need to mimick the crap automakers use to hide plastic intake manifolds and valve covers on modern engines. The plastic is for weight savings and heat dissipation, not to mention lower cost. Then, to offset all that function they put a big cover over the engine to make it look like something it isn't. Ours is visible and looks ok. They put a small cover on it that isn't really necessary, but it's fairly minimal. I'm a big fan of edelbrock from way back, this just looks silly and unnecessary to me. I would rather see them cater to function, rather than the Chevy Ford and Chrysler crowd that they traditionally cater to. Give them the big heavy lumps of bling. They weigh 4000 lbs anyway. We hav a small, lightweight car that really doesn't need a lot of extra flash under the hood. The American muscle crowd will never be the customer of this product. Most of them are too busy juicing their camaros and challengers. I would love to see weight specs compared to cosworth, and charge temps too. I'll bet this will be found wanting. I'm sorry for all the feelings I hurt here, but this thing is ugly to me. It seems to cater too much to appearance. It may very well perform great- I hope it does. Another choice for us is a good thing.another thing, in this picture there doesn't appear to be a pulley that runs the compressor unit. There are a great number of extra idlers, but where is the drive neck? It may be there under the front porch awning I see in the picture, but I don't even see the front of the supercharger. I want to see a supercharger if I have a supercharger. I'll vote with my wallet when I finallly supercharge my car. If this things exceeds its appearance, I could be swayed. But, it's looks are not good. And the inter cooler part IS a monstrosity. Thanks for the education from the three captain obvious', I'm not convinced this is dedigned more for function than v8 appearance.

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Man, you are way too hung up on the appearance and what you "think" they are trying to cater to.

Originally Posted by twag4

Yes, that is it. Thanks

If it's something else, you sure did a hell of a job only talking about how it looks.

[itsibarra]

Originally Posted by twag4

Hey, I got flamed for having an opinion. That is WTF! So I explained why I didn't like it, now all you forum hero types don't like that. Sorry. Buy millions of these, prove they are the best. People have pretty tender feelings for a system that doesn't exist yet for the real world. Wow!

I think you were getting flamed because your statements were attacking and presumptuous. If you don't like it that's fine.

IMO I think Cosworth's unit isn't attractive...Performance-wise we'll wait for enigma to chime in the Cosworth thread after he gets dyno'd.

E-Force - I think the top of the manifold looks VERY different from their other units. Looks almost like a fuse between LFA's engine cover and a flipped FT-1 concept engine. As for performance & cooling, I won't assume but hope the IC core is close to as wide as that manifold.