05-05-2018, 11:45 PM | #365 |
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Wow my eyes are bleeding from reading. Nice info guys. Personally power wise in
n/a cars for the track and local twists if someone wants a piece lol, I have always gone for suspension upgrades, than the motor. My recipe is always been all at once: mild cam for hp in the mid to upper rpms which is where u wanna be for auto x anyhow, headers, full cai intake, full header back ss hfc exhaust with a quarter inch bigger pipe all the way back, stock muffler unless it's too heavy, and of course a tune. The tune is the most important thing for me, I don't believe in bolt on power without a tune, losing power in the lower rpms to gain here or gain there, running too rich or too lean, puking smoke, I've seen it a million times. I understand you can go way more agressive or go forced induction but for me there's nothing like n/a power through those curves! Hope I'm not thread jacking just my 2 cents. Sent from my G3223 using Tapatalk |
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The only thing I can share about my childhood is that I was a gifted student in mathematics and in fact my math teachers were giving me the chance to draw & write on the chalkboard every time they were teaching and in general help the other students. |
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I live in Germany the last 7 years, but I am Greek.
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Ah, yes, I lived in Germany for a couple of years......back in the 60's, but I am hillbilly from Ohio. I had a highly modified VW bug. Yep, a 40 liter, neoprene tank, filled with gas, in the front, under the hood, covered with an Army blanket. What a bomb just looking for an accident. However, it gave me a long range, filled with $.23 cents per gallon gasoline from the military EES. 44, that's a good age (as they say,(for some of us) ...... "old enough to know better, but, young enough to not give a shit". IT ....... good profession ..... very universal ..... Germany ....... a beautiful country to be driving a sporty car ...... Have a great rest of the weekend. humfrz |
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350 HP Makes my BRZ the fun car I wanted
After 4 years of driving my 2013 BRZ Limited, I decided to go to a Stage1 setup/build day one with my 2017 BRZ Yellow Edition. Sent it to Crawford in California from Orlando, Florida. It came back with less than 100 HP more.
I changed out the suspension to KW coils and 18" wheels 8.5 with Michelin 245/30 18 PSS. Delicious Flexfuel install, aluminum drive shaft, and lots of bushing changes. and retuned it again. I drive the same winding roads, Streets and Turnpike here in Clermont as I did with the 2013 Limited. I would never go back to a basic BRZ. |
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So here is my take on this original question:
Having come from much more powerful cars like the bmw M2 and a porsche boxster s, I enjoy driving my 86 significantly more than either. The reason I enjoy it is not because it's a better car, a faster car, a better handling car, a more comfortable car, or any of the normal reasons. It is because it is a more engaging car. With lots of power, you can just mash the gas and go fast. Anyone can do it out of the box. Fun? sure. With the 86/brz you have to truly master the car to drive it really fast. That's the fun of this car, the challenge and engagement of chasing mastery. If you shift too soon, oops... torque dip, if you break too soon, oops you can't get back up to speed coming out of the corner, if you don't heel toe just right, oops you're in the torque dip. This I believe is why the torque dip is there and why they don't shy away and pretend it's not or change it in a revamp. It was always meant to be there to give us a challenge. You have to get the mix just right and doing so requires you to really focus, practice, and work for it. This car is like a video game where you have to keep replaying until you get it perfect to win the level, everything designed for a reason to make it engaging and challenging. This is the fun of the car and to add more power, to make the car just fast no matter what, it ruins that. |
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In my opinion, I don't think more power will ruin the car.
I just think that if I can't even handle a 200hp, how can I handle higher hp car. I have thought of getting a supercharger but I ended up spending it all on suspension, tires, and brake.
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Upgrade everything.
You can never have enough power, having to little traction, well you can work on that. Hell, I've watched a 700hp 86 do laps around Eastern Creek, so, there's a starting point for your power goals.
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You can never have to much power, too little traction can be a issue, insufficient brakes to, poor choice of suspension, ditto, crap tyres, yeap, BUT, with good engineering practices these things can be dialed out.
But then there is the elephant in the room, drivers skill, which again, can, nay, may be fixed. I've never meet a racecar with to much power. I have met alot of people lacking the talent to control a high powered car though. One of those guys looks at me when I'm shaving. Yeah, he is a ****.....
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